Hi Guys, I am sorry for not posting sooner. Just got back to home base and have had several issues to attend too. Thanks Great White North for the great explanation on the resin theory. I have answered Many of these questions at an older post by Rick on Jan 15.
First off. The MSDS has always been available to the small selected group using the product. I am in negotiations with various groups so MSDS are only available to end users at this time, due to pending patents and fear of reverse engineering.
Second. The website is not up because the product is not available to the public and is still in its infancy where it is now being evaluated at the shop level. Every shop has a different way of doing things and right now the select people involved are trying to work together to see the issues that come up. This will ensure isolation of production and standardize application so end users will be successful.
Third. I have never said the product did not contain Diisocyantes, the product does contain it’s own variation. However I did say that it was not a TDI or MDI but a different DI. For Greg or anyone else to say I or someone from my company was lying just simply is not true. I think by saying the statement of no TDI or MDI he jumped to his own conclusions. I have not been doing anything misleading. You all can draw your own conclusions on why personal attacks have been made against this product or myself. I will not engage in slanderous discussions. This not what this industry needs right now nor is it proper business etiquette.
Fourth. In the Jan 15 post I state that everyone using the product should wear a respirator and cover skin.
Fifth. In Ricks case he has immediate respiratory issuses that is an indicator that he is allergic to the material. He contacted me right away. This was an isolated issue and the only one so far reported. There is an amine in this product for all of you that are worried about amine sensitivity. If the part A is on the skin by it self the risk increases. I have spoken to many Dr.s about this product as to avoid any backlash. The conclusion is always the same. Different peoples bodies process different chemicals different ways and it is normally based on metabolism.
Sixth. Sanding dust in shops creates significant enough hazards to warrant a respirator regardless of what fumes or vapors exist as a result of the resins or solvents used. Wood dust is even considered a class 3 carcinogen, so sanding a stringer without a mask is even bad.
Seven. The tests in the weathering cabinet were not even done on foam, but on aluminum cards. This shows clarity and stability of the resin alone. In regards to yellowing and epoxies, they all yellow at some point, its only a matter of time. Uv absorbers/stabilizers only delay this from happening.
Eight. On another forum “snapping” or boards breaking was brought up. Several companies now have Resin-X boards going to the north shore for advanced durability testing…So far no Resin-X board has broken in half. Even those made with 1.25 lb EPS are still alive and well according to all reports.
To the swaylocks community that is opposed to what I am doing with resin-X. I can make any epoxy you want me to. The name C3D was created specifically for the composites industry and is a new label. Our company makes over 300 types of epoxies, urethanes, waterbornes and acrylics, not to mention other coatings. People with in the industry asked me for this and I am simply trying to produce what they want. I started making boards for fun. I am a backyard guy just like everyone else. I tried one leading epoxy and stopped. I have grown up in the coatings business and have a mechanical engineering background. I did extensive R & D for several snowboard manufacturers throughout the nineties. As a result, I knew I could produce various epoxy systems that focused on dynamic flex because I heard that flex was the big buzz. When I talked with people in the industry they told me all there problems with epoxy and said “been there, done that, what else do you got”. Thats when I started working on resin-X. I have read things on this forum asking why there aren’t more alternative materials. I came up with an alternative and now I am getting slammed for it before it is even off the ground. You can’t have your cake and eat it to. The negative attacks and naysayers are what prevents fresh thinking from entering this market.
I have been knee deep in the effects of foreign manufacturing far longer than surfboard industry. It has almost ruined american manufacturing where I am from (Detroit). You will never beat them at there own game. The only option is to go the other way and cater to the high end market. Walmart may sell $20 snowboards, but the growth of the market in high end has pushed good board prices over $1000. It is a shame that a passionate sport such as surfing has grown into an industry that has been selling its soul (ie: intellectual property) to be produced by people(ie: CHINA) who do not even participate. Surfing is and always will be the one of the original “extreme” sports. Its heart and soul is in custom design and craftsmanship. Who can forget the elation one feels the first time they ride a board deemed “magic”
This product will speed up production times and offer dynamic performance gains. My hope is that it will allow designers to think outside the box, continue to innovate with new shapes because different flex properties are now available. It also will allow designers to more quickly get a board in the water or on the rack at the local shop. It also eliminates the worry of long term yellowing.
Right now, I am too busy to monitor and post daily. I will however look forward to the day I can post pics of my own projects and be part of other discussions, but right now, there is not enough hours in the day.
For those of you who have supported me. Thank you
Matt