RR Epoxy: Shipping to freezing locale??

Question for Greg-

Can RR epoxy/hardener be shipped in the winter time to the midwest? It’s like 20 degrees F at this time… Additive F as well.

Any probs with the stuff going into a deep freeze during shipment? (I doubt any freight carriers can guarantee a certain temperature during shipment).

I burned thru my last 3 gallon kit (ordered in the summer) and I need more, but can it handle the cold weather during shipment without any ill effects?

Man, I’d hate to have to wait til spring… =)

Thanks in advance!

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Greg, you out there??? =)

I just got some RR shipped to Milwaukee, Wisconsin last week. I don’t think freezing temps are a problem. The resin just gets really thick and needs to warm up before you can use it again.

For “additive f” I noticed there are some solids comming out of the solution at only moderately cool temps. The solids re-dissolve when you warm it up. My workshop is only about 65 degrees F. I put the can of additive f and the resin in a pan of warm water a little while before I am planning to mix it.

Once mixed the RR with fast hardener works fine in 65 degrees, it just takes a little longer to cure.

Actually, this week I picked up an electric heating pad for $10 at American Science and Surplus and have been using that instead of a pan of water.

Trent

Hi Trent-

Appreciate the info. I’m in Chicago, we’re pretty close! Lake’s gonna go “ice” on us real soon… bummer.

I’ve been using the RR epoxy in my workshop (apx 50 degrees at this time) with no probs at all, but wondering if the subzero temps will hurt the product in transit.

The epoxy products I use to build fishing rods are not supposed to be allowed to freeze as they will be destroyed according to their manu’s.

Oh yeah- I noticed the same thing with Additive F and the solids appearing…

Tom

Hey, although i haven’t yet used RR, I live in Canada and my resins get cold all the time just keep the containers inside for a few days to let them warm up and you should be good to go. Although not as good for boards Industrial Formulators from Vancouver make a cold cure epoxy that works well in colder temps although not so much for below zero C(freezing, i don’t understand farenheit)

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I’ve been using the RR epoxy in my workshop (apx 50 degrees at this time) with no probs at all, but wondering if the subzero temps will hurt the product in transit.

I’ve had problems using RR epoxy while cooler, I think it related mainly to being able to appropriately mix the thick resin with the hardener. Heating the resin and Additive F to 70-80 F seemed to make life a lot easier. This is standard practice in some pro glassing shops in NorCal. It flows better, mixes more easily, and sets with in more reasonable time period.

Too much cold can also mean damp and that can cause some blush…Use your Add F and warm your resin.

I don’t heat the whole can, usually; I pour some off & heat it in this - lid off & label removed. But if its been below about 50*F, I notice some white gunk settles to the bottom, so I do heat the whole can then and it all mixes back together. Heat makes it flow just like water…

But not too much! This one went off just a little too quickly.

Started crackling as soon as I poured in the hardener. I slipped on the welding gloves & ran the whole bucket outside & dropped it in a bucket of water. It still smoked & crackled for an hour.

We’ve never had a problem with that.

I just ordered my RR epoxy from Greg on Tues. and I’m up in Grand Haven, Michigan. He told me it might thicken up and just keep it in the house to warm it to about 70 degrees before use and try to keep it around that temp while using it. You should’t have any problems. Hope you had a great November surf , the winds were crazy around here.

See Ya,

Marty

Hi I’m near Milwaukee if anyone wants to get together for an order or for some vac bagging fun let me know I’m going to get started again in the next couple weeks.

Hi Guys-

Thanks for the tips. I’ve been warming the resin before using it, so no probs, and the cold shop temps give me a loooong working time. =)

Benny- nice bucket of fun you had there! I’ve got a few more Q’s for you re: your sandwich D-cell stuff, but I’ll do up a new post since the topic is different.

Greg- Thanks for the info, needed to hear it from the main man.

Wrangler- Are you the guy doing the checkerboard board mentioned on 3rd Coast?

Marty- I’ve had a terrific season so far. Last waves were Sunday, they were small and really clean. Long, long lefts on the log…

Tom