Yes
Newport possibly, Huntington, no chance.
I’m a real old bastard(ROB).
What are you trying to say?
perhaps what you have noted is that
Santa Ana River Jetties, Huntington and Newport Side is a focal point for long period South Swells from the Southern Hemisphere.
What you may not be aware of is that focal point shifts to
Newport Point(Newport Pipeline) some 2miles to the South on short period South and South East Swells(Hurricane Swells).
This is not to say that the rest of the Newport/Huntington area
is not an excellent wave field for South/SouthEast swells.
It is an excellent wave magnet for all Southerly Swells amongst
the entire West Coast USA.
Hopefully I’ve added to this short discussion.
Is someone optimistically waiting for Huntington to catch some head high surf? Well, keep waiting for a NW swell this fall.
Did someone forget some strategically placed offshore islands?
Howard’s a bust, except for Newps and a few spots late today.
I’m not one to argue or banter about, however
I’ve been drawing lines through Marine/Coastal Charts for surf forecasting since the early 80’s.
I will admit that amongst Hurricane forecasting back then
and through the 90’s I considered myself amongst the best
for a guy sitting at home.
However, I’ve been leaving that to the professionals lately.
I havent studied the satellite charts on this one as it was moving along and you may be
right as to Howard being a bust if its fetch area on the right hand
side of the Hurricane Center wasnt appreciably within the window.
Most forecasters just look for the center to be within the window
and forget about the wide fetch area that must also accompany this. Further the wide fetch area may also be directed toward
the NorthEast which may also make this a bust…
This can also be discened through the pattern of feeding winds
within a hurricane and how the major feed patterns are directed.
Like I said I didnt track this one…have been leaving it to the paid
pro’s…who in the past have been big flubbers as it occurs to
paying attention to the details that I mentioned previously.
However, to what little attention I paid to Howard.
I’ve got $20 bucks and bragging rights towards
saying that your off target on predictions of dismal swell.
Further, you are forgetting that
Santa Ana RJ’s is predominantly a Huntington Break, ‘StateBeach’
and all.
The River is the dividing line and it is a Southerly Focal point
along with 56th street.
As to strategically placed Islands, you could be referring to
200-220 swell or 295-305 swell, but in any case your off the
mark with a 155-195 swell window.
So I really have to beg the question.
What are you talking about???
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Is someone optimistically waiting for Huntington to catch some head high surf? Well, keep waiting for a NW swell this fall.
Did someone forget some strategically placed offshore islands?
Howard’s a bust, except for Newps and a few spots late today.
I sincerely HOPE you get it, and so does everyone in SoCal.
But truth be what it is, and all the downgrading, plus all the NW junk windswell opposing the somewhat close Howard, I think you are just dreaming, like all the Wetsand/ whatevers.
Hope runs eternal, or whatever, so maybe you can just keep hoping.
Of course, if you are totally happy with head high shortperiod inconsistentcies, then you will be rewarded.
Me, I’m looking longterm for something to bring out my 8’ x 19.5 Plumeria.
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……As to strategically placed Islands, you could be referring to
200-220 swell or 295-305 swell, but in any case your off the mark with a 155-195 swell window.
Perhaps…but you left out Isla Cedros, which does have an effect on the window.
well if your going to pull the Isla Cedros card!
I’ll trump you with the Isla Guadalupo card!
–all 8 miles wide of it.
True, but it didn’t delay the entry of HOWARD into our wave window by almost a day–as Isla Cedros did.
OK Rob, you are right!
Finally gots some S swell that hits Newp to Huntington, with H about head high + depending on who you talk to.
Hope you got some of it, it’s not coming up to NorCal anytime soon.
Wasn’t that storm supposed to get a little bigger than that?
Hey Lee, Had to leave SD to get waves today. Oceanside was pretty good. Started at Sunset cliffs, went to Bird rock, WindnSea all knee high…Hit the freeway went to Oceanside Harbor, 2-4 ft overhead offshore peeling barrels. Aren’t cars great. As of 5;00 sunday It looks like its still coming up too.
-Jay
Glad you guys got some.
I went on a road trip to pick up my 8’ Plumeria today, a 19.5" wide 2.75 thick semi for winter.
Surf didn’t warrant any more than a 6’ chiptri, so I just drove 190 miles in the 90 degree heat.
I hate riding big boards in head high surf, and g/f was impatient to get home.
Actually I’m not right about anything.
although Hurr. Howard was a very good positioned
and heathy hurricane
I paid attention to Surfline and Wetsand.
Lee, I’m wondering what service
did you use, …thats whats really important.
A friend who hasnt sent me a link yet,
said basically the same as you did from info
from either Scripps or CDIP.
But at the time he represented it as NOAA
which has had a laughable track history in the past
on such matters.
The service I used was the school of skepticism! Since I’m a pessimist by heart, I always look for the worse in any situation.
The fact the surf got up to head+ in some spots is not enough to induce any stoke from me. Heck, the promise was "10-20’ " at the Wedge, meaning at least arm’s reach overhead up here in SanFrancisco area.
Worse…today I just picked up my winter 8’ x 19.65 x 2.7/8 Plumeria. Nothing this piddling swell produces comes close.
BTW, it’s been about head high+ around here for over a week, but mostly, we don’t get too excited about piddlers.
o man newport was fun today. Still going to be good for tomorrow morning?
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The service I used was the school of skepticism! Since I’m a pessimist by heart, I always look for the worse in any situation.
The fact the surf got up to head+ in some spots is not enough to induce any stoke from me. Heck, the promise was "10-20’ " at the Wedge, meaning at least arm’s reach overhead up here in SanFrancisco area.
Pessimism toward hurricane swells for Southern Calif pays off handsomely in June, July and is an excellent nay-sayer surf forecasting method. August,September can bite you back. The Wedge did reach DoubleOverhead and the swell did fill in better from any reports you heard from strictly dawn patrollers. I surfed overhead waves and I’ve had reports of 10ft faces (probably not entirely true) at Bolsa Chica. As to the laments of Southern California Surf from Northern Calif…its been interesting.
Good on ya for catching a few for us!!
Funny thing, the same wave… Gulf Coast…6-8’
East Coast..5-7'
SoCal...... 4-6'
NorCal... 3-5'
Hawaiin.. 1-3'
I’m a pessimist on Mexican storms also, and by Saturday evening I thought Howard would be a bust too. Friday was blown out, and Saturday was really nothing except the winds died down. Sunday went from chest-high in the am, to just overhead in the afternoon, to a couple of feet overhead in the evening. This went on from Oceanside to Doheny. I gauge a solid south by Doheny, since only a direct south will get it over 3’ most of the time. The outside reef at Doho had 8 ft faces in the evening on the dropping tide, but crappy texture and not very hollow. Nice drop but very bouncey. My pessimistic prediction: Smaller Monday, almost gone Tues, probably a lot of texture and bumps both days. The timing during Labor Day weekend didn’t help either, lots of stupids who didn’t belong out in these conditions.
I just got out of the water at 4:30PM today.
Huntington was Overhead today and great!
Might be up to Head high for Tuesday morn.