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Sea Shepard: a farce.
Japanese whale research: a farce.
Disregard for species endangered through expedient profiteering: a disturbing lack of wisdom, judgement and foresight.
Our planetary ecosystem will exact retribution in due course.
I have an opinion about manure – with no desire to taste it. Some say it is like Bull Sh!t.
paraphrased:
“All that is necessary for wrongdoing to succeed is for decent humans to do nothing** …**”
~ Sir Edmund Burke ~
During the 70’s, I operated sports fishing and whale watching vessels out of Pillar Point Harbor in Half Moon Bay, so have some opinions about whales and boat operators.
Whales are sentient, and should be considered our equals.
Their communications are thought by those who have studied them for decades to be as complex and meaningful as human speech.
Their brains physiology indicates definitive higher cognitive function including hard wiring for senses we can only guess at.
Our society judges them well beneath us, however, because as non-technical sentient beings they don’t build and drive cars or fly jets.
For the informed who consider them sentient, killing and eating a whale is murder of an intelligent being, barbaric, plain and simple.
With that said, the antics of the Sea Shepherd are hard to watch. From the captain on down it appears a Ship of Fools more dangerous to those aboard then anyone else. Regardless, they have drawn international attention to the issue, and most importantly, helped propel the internal dialogue within Japan, and it has been made clear that the younger generations are vehemently opposed to whaling.
So the end of whaling will finally come, and probably not until then, when the younger people in Japan replace the obstinate old fuks still stubbornly clinging on in the halls of power, and end this barbaric travesty.
And regarding the Rasta’s, and the Dynamic Leaders Of The Movement.
in the front of all environmental movements can be found the self-righteous, the self-serving, and the self-promoting.
They tend to find the front of the line everywhere and anywhere, regardless the cause, business or party, it’s where they thrive…
Pigs are one of the smartest animals as well but that doesn’t stop people from eating porkchops.
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that’s just the problem… they are over-fishing the population to the point of near extinction and have no regard whatsoever for endangered species. You seem to think they’re just going to “come to their senses” about it… the only way that hunting the endangered whales will “only last so long” is when they go from endangered to extinct
Again, this is the problem. It is a completely useless industry that encourages the useless slaughtering of a species en masse, and then a large majority of the product goes to waste, based on the fact that they feel it’s their “cultural right”… If they were not over fishing, and as much of the animals were being used as possible, this would not be an issue. But the fact of the matter is that they are poachers, akin to those who murder elephants for their tusks and leave the meat to rot out in the sun
I suppose you have a source to cite for that? If this is true, you are the first person in history to discover it… there’s a difference between being “smart” and being “intellegently sentient” - new research shows whales and dolphins actually have complex speech and call each other by name. The gap between that and a farm-raised animal is huge. Not to mention pigs are bred in large quantities for the purpose of consumption, and most of the animal is used. Tell me, who is out there breeding whales to offset the impact to their population?
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During the 70’s, I operated sports fishing and whale watching vessels out of Pillar Point Harbor in Half Moon Bay, so have some opinions about whales and boat operators.
Whales are sentient, and should be considered our equals.
Their communications are thought by those who have studied them for decades to be as complex and meaningful as human speech.
Their brains physiology indicates definitive higher cognitive function including hard wiring for senses we can only guess at.
Our society judges them well beneath us, however, because as non-technical sentient beings they don’t build and drive cars or fly jets.
For the informed who consider them sentient, killing and eating a whale is murder of an intelligent being, barbaric, plain and simple.
With that said, the antics of the Sea Shepherd are hard to watch. From the captain on down it appears a Ship of Fools more dangerous to those aboard then anyone else. Regardless, they have drawn international attention to the issue, and most importantly, helped propel the internal dialogue within Japan, and it has been made clear that the younger generations are vehemently opposed to whaling.
So the end of whaling will finally come, and probably not until then, when the younger people in Japan replace the obstinate old fuks still stubbornly clinging on in the halls of power, and end this barbaric travesty.
And regarding the Rasta’s, and the Dynamic Leaders Of The Movement.
in the front of all environmental movements can be found the self-righteous, the self-serving, and the self-promoting.
They tend to find the front of the line everywhere and anywhere, regardless the cause, business or party, it’s where they thrive…
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Amen.
The true arrogance is believing human communication, thought and technology are the sole expressions, representation or form of sentience.
first off …We don’t ‘need to change the definition of piracy’…
the sea shepard has no authority to attack other ships regardless of a crime that they are commiting…even if no one else is stopping illegal whaling…they are not international police. This is why they were labeled as priates. Secondly, countries are required to adhere to IWC rules unless they lodge an objection to the moratorium in which case they can continue hunting… so it is not ‘very much illegal everywhere in the world.’ http://marinelife.about.com/od/conservation/p/Whaling.htm
as for pigs…here are the sources you asked for…I am not ‘the first person in history to discover it.’
http://www.veganpeace.com/animal_facts/Pigs.htm
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/27/opinion/thinking-about-pigs-before-theyre-food.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7998780.stm
#4 most intellegent animal on earth
pirates: attacking, or hijacking of another ship.
Stretch the definition a little? Yes.
but are not these grand cetaceans nature’s grand and most fine ships?
Whalers don’t seem to have any moral qualms about their actions, nor do pirates.
In the end it is a matter of perspective.
Some have greater perspective than others.
To me whaling seems a selfish act of short sighted perspective.
Japan is able to justify the act, though it appears through a lie, to me at lease.
Positive change is what we at Sways are directed toward
and I stand with the rest here.
Mahalo, Rich
It’s easy to look at the whaling ships and say they are terrible. At least they only kill the whales they shoot with harpoons. Many countries have natives who still hunt, kill and eat whales for survival. I do not have a problem with that.
The U.S. Navy and the armed forces of other countries use extremely harmful forms of sonar that do terrible harm to a variety of sea mammals. Whales and Dolphins have an incredible sense of hearing, and they are often unseen victims of the technology our countries use. I would bet that many more whales, and many still on an endangered species list, are killed each year from these devices and no one ever hears about it.
Too me the killing of all those dolphins in Japan is a much worse crime. All because they eat the same things we/they do. Such a terrible example of mankind’s out of control selfishness.
the sea gives
nuff said
f$ck these c*nts have it all under control, eh. well at least the whale meat wont be radiocative
the more things change the more they stay the same
who give a sh!t what a us federal court rekons anyway, but cool i want to be a pirate aaaaargghhh
cept for the gay earings
fck the pigs and ajs. keep ya guns ya gunna need em
Really like to see Sea Shepard go up against the US Navy to stop them killing marine cetaceans with the sonar warfare. Now that would be a show to tune in for. Except it would be a very short show.
Whaling for food is one thing. I have no problem with natives who eat whale to survive. They are a stones throw above primitive anyway. And they revere their source of nourishment as much as native americans did the elk, deer and buffalo that sustained their lives.
But commercial operations are another sort of beast altogether.
And the real outrage should be with the US Navy for the senseless killing of an unknown number of marine species at a time. The sonar testing is so bad we don’t even know how badly it is effecting marine life. Everything underwater uses sound to some degree.
Self serving phony-balonies out to garner attention like Watson and Rastavich only bring attention to themselves in their quest to live off others, like the parasites they are.
Easily duped by a Chinese hoax.NYC : News & Analysis: Japan nuclear fallout map -- it started out as a hoax, but could it turn out to be true ? At least, as it concerns the direction of any fallout ?
If that map were true at least 50% of the west coast would be dead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_radiation_syndrome
Besides that I agree with your cunts assessment.
This comment has me curious - I feel you don’t realize that these whaling vessels don’t just “kill the whales they shoot with harpoons”… totally aside from the fact that they use explosive harpoons that maim far more than they kill. Typically the whale is dragged up onto the boat still half-alive and suffering while they chop the thing up bit by bit with chainsaws. I could imagine that’s about as pleasant as death by compy
I will agree that the slaughter of the dolphins in the cove is far more gruesome and heartless too… they just hack away at them with machetes until they bleed to death or die of shock. Terrible
The **only **thing that the Japanese government will care about and could make them prohibit killing cetaceans is a financial blow. Simply, if you care about this issue, do not buy any Japanese cars, new or used. If we all would stop buying them and make it known to the media that this is occurring, the Japanese auto manufacturers will take care of the rest, and promptly.
Doesn’t matter if they make some of them in the US, just adds more political force to the plan. No Japanese cars will be purchased by a very large group of people in this country until they stop. Let’s get this going.
I propose a name for the movement:
Forego Unconsionable Cetacean Killing
Seriously, though, I think we should start this movment here and let it gather steam. Perhaps a national petition that millions can sign online. If someone on this forum knows how to do such things, please comment.
Thanks, grumpy, I started one on facebook.