hello guys and gals
i have this boards to be made
1.5# EPS
i would like to hear your opinions on glassing
i was thinking LIGHT and do deck with 6/4 S-Glass and bottom 6 S-Glass, with an extra patch over the complete thinned-out tail…
Then add fin box patches and install Fusions * 5
That would yield lightweight, for dutch CRAP under shoulder high.
this is supposed to be a cheap + light board, apart from the S-glass of course
i have E-glass too, 4 + 6 Oz.
what do you think?
damn pics
oh, and i am going to straighten the back behind fins a bit
make tail more rounded
thanks
I’d add double wings. One in front of the fins, and one behind. Really shortens the rail length, and makes it easier to slide it around.
thanks ES
wings of 1/4 inch?
say at 6 + 12 inches?
i went to rusty his site yesterday, and saw lots of wings there.
but … i was thinking that wings would not do a really small wave board justice…?
my thought was more area = more drive and float in crap ? if it were a manoeuvre waves, would wings be more in its place?
what do you think?
Doing a 5-finner???
I’d do at least a quad and put two soft bumps in it at the trailing edges of both sets of fins… which are nice and close to a hard edge.
You’ve got really light core material, so glass away, I’d say. It’ll still be plenty light. I think no S-glass on the bottom. I’d do double 6oz E all around to keep the cost down, with an S-glass patch wherever you know you need it.
And maybe some HD foam inserts for the boxes.
The last board I did for waist high crap waves I put the wings at 11" and 15" I also put some extra flip in the tail. It really lets it go vert even when the wave isn’t pushing too much. Lower nose rocker, around 4 1/2" helps keep up the speed.
My thoughts on tail rocker is less if you want to really project a turn. More for tighter turns. Since on crappy waves, a long drawn out turn will put you way out of the power, I like to keep it tight in. Long turns at around 2 1/2 tail. Short turns, 3 1/2" tail rocker.
Go thick in the tail. 1/2" thicker than normal. On crappy little waves, biting an edge really isn’t going to happen, its more about float. Also go wide in the tail. 1" wider than normal. Surface area keeps you over the water, and not under it.
If the conditions are clean, a wider nose helps the paddeling, but not much else. If it is choppy, you’ll be bouncing all over, and out of control, so keep it narrower.
3.5 ??? wow lots of it for sure
and what about glassing??
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It was from a Marko EPS blank. 4 oz bottom, 6 & 4 oz deck, with a tail patch.
It wasn’t all that light. I weigh over 200 pounds, so I crush decks.
I like a little heavier glass.
Hmm... gonna have to go the opposite route as every surfer, except with the pulled in nose I agree there.
I've tweaked a few boards that are almost identical except for rocker and an inch of width, and thickness placement here and there.. meant to go in those conditions
the board with the flattest rocker (about an inch) and super thin tail that was an inch wider (21) went wayyyy better in the small waves from what I would imagine would be more surface area and more drive from the flatter rocker. No tail flip at all, curvey outline, and a good amount of toe in the fins, combined with super early not drawn out nose entry and the board goes where you want it to. The thin rails and tail made it a real biatch to catch waves compared to the thicker one but once your going its just blazing
hey bob marley is still kicking it!
thin like mine? or thinner?
now the idea is to put 1 set of wings on it, at 11 inches, then do a round tail… but keeping it flat and thin, so it adapts to pressure, just ideas
Well mine is a 6'6 x 21" wide and its only 1 3/4 but its compsand.. thinner is better for performance for sure, once your planeing all the volume becomes unnecessary. Thicker rails definetly help catch waves sooner but the thinner rails will give you more manuevability if you go wide
I dont have any experience adding wings so I couldnt help you there
I would narrow the pod a bit to increase planshape curve thru the tail to increase its turning circle when on rail, but thats just my opinion, you still have plenty of area there so it will plane well and be quite a loose planshape... Glass it light, no point having a small wave board that is a great shape but too heavy to really enjoy the benefits of the shape...better to have a board that goes great for 6 months , then have a board thats a bit of a slug but lasts forever...IMO....
hey pridmore,
i will indeed do my first ever wing, and have a round tail, similiar in shape to my shortboard, to increase outline curvature. When i opened up the package it was too large for my taste anyways… computer shaping does have disadvantages for sure!
U ever did a light glassing on a 1.5 EPS foam blank? how much did you stick on top of it? Will do test panels anyway, to see what the tail flex will be…i am thinking doing a glass foam board only, no fooling around with veneer and shit.
And probox fin boxes are HEAVY, 53 grams pre-install, versus Fusion 20 grams, damn the 100 grams extra then…
Thanks for all the replies so far!
Wouter
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If you’re counting grams… maybe you should consider surfing in a speedo instead of baggies… and get a haircut, too…
Seriously, how about performance core fins… light and rigid, but not too stiff.
Good on you going with wings. If you adjust your template, wings will let you do a more parallel outline through the middle, which is good for speed in weak surf. If you just keep the same outline, and add wings, you pull the tail… not so good for weak surf.
I’d go as thin as you can go and still paddle into the slop. For me, that’s about 2.5 inches on a 6’0!
no wings outline is good. lower the nose entry. deep single and some v in the tail. maybe pull the tail a bit . thruster… set the cluster 1/4 inch back then usual
KISS
glass it as heavy as you like
I would do what silly said but go the round tail with no wings...smooth, gradual rocker...flatter rocker will get you moving and the lightness and shape ( if you do the right one ) will allow you to use that speed and make small wave surfing sooo much fun.....
What don’t you like about wings/bumps? Why not bump it down instead of pulling in the tail template?