I’m disappointed by your swearing Halcyon, what started out as a lighthearted challenge/statement has eroded yet another thread.
I think that if you feel you are going fast thats great no matter what speed it is. Surfing is about feelings, and enjoyment of all the things associated with it. The commeradery, the water and the experiences.
The only limiting factor to the speed you go is the wave itself. It’s different to being pulled behind a boat at 45mph + on a 9’er feeling like you are going to be sucked off the board because of the friction between the hull and the water.
Do you have any interesting mat speed information Mr Sose? I have been told that mats can be very fast. Expect to see a tunnel finned kneeboard speedster on this forum soon.
After ALL of that. That was the wave? Roy, you must be kidding. I’m glad your having fun. Is it April 1st? Oh well, maybe I was going 76mph on that double over ankle wave. Roy, you have an excellent sense of humor or are delusional. Very good joke, though. Pretty boards, interesting fin design, same old cruising in subpar surf. Nothing to get upset about that I can see. At least I know what a mushy but hollow wave is now. Thanks for the info. Keep having fun,yah-all. Mike
Hey Rooster, Fun? Yes, Sense of humour, Yes, Delusional? (not this time) 76 mph is most impressive. I await your video clip or gps recorded speed with eager anticipation.
PS Are you sure that wasn’t 76 kilometres per hour?
PPS Slow but still the fastest on this forum at +25 mph (chest beating noises)
Well said, Roy. Well said. Maybe it was km/hour. What was that conversion? Oh well, it doesn’t matter. What is that thumping sound I keep hearing coming from my computer? Mike
Give me a break! The camera shake has nothing to do with it. Think about it and do some geometry. If the background next to the board which is twelve feet long moves past in eight frames (which it does) then that is 44 feet per second at 30 frames per second. Analyse it yourself it is more than 13 metres per second, which is 780 metres per minute, which is 46.8 kilometres per hour which is more than 30 mph so 25 mph is a conservative estimate. (Nor did I calculate in the wave moving toward the beach which increases the speed more).
The speed is deceptive because the board is so smooth. Would it help if I jumped up and down and jerked around a bit?
How you think you can get a better estimate than frame by frame analysis by guessing is beyond me.
I just saw the video. That's all i need to know that you have a problem, believe me, you perceive the reality very distorted. Take care.
I saw "juniors" going way faster in the same conditions with a 5'9'' thruster shortboard.
Keep riding what you want, keep doing your really nice boards (yes, they are really nice!), but trying to perceive the reality as it is will help you a lot in life.
+25mph? i can't check it, but it sounds way more that what i saw on the video.
One thing is for sure. You aren't the fastest surfer on this forum.
Well Roy, once again, take care.
Good waves! (bigger and faster waves, i mean)
Coque.
PS: anyone remember we i was talking about "beach break close outs" on the "Fin theory thread"? i was talking about better waves than this one on the video, believe me.
Thankyou for your comments. 25+ mph is the reality, and I believe the specifications on my video editing gadget. I do not cheat at games, I can count, and I can do elementary geometry. Our calculations are close to the mark. What’s the big deal? If your juniors are going faster then more stoke to them, and they could be in the 30mph bracket. Please don’t brag and criticise without doing some homework first, Coque. Haven’t you got a video camera?
Please do not question my honesty or basic intelligence.
You have not, as far as I can tell, attempted to measure the speed of any rides at all. You are not even yet a beginner when it comes to measuring surfing speed.
The very best of waves to you, Sir.
PS Here are some much slower rides which I didn’t even bother to measure.
Roy, I keep thinking about playing with your fin design, and have given thought as to how I can make a tunnel that’ll fit into my Futures sides so that it’s removable. I’m thinking I might could use in-place sidebites on a selected board as an incorporated spine or frame and fabricate over them. I’d get some toe-in from the thing, any problems there? What do you think? Your thoughts on using a fin in the center box?
You seem to be getting some good speed in the clip I viewed. Think you can talk someone into dropping in ahead of you on a lined up wave? Share the plan with the subject to provide motivation-“your job is to haul ass 'cause if I catch you, you’re a lollipop!” Video it, it would play very well with the longboard crowd.
“I swear, it had to be 10…no 12…nah probably 15 feet out there…biggest surf you’ve ever seen…and I was the only one out”
Hmmm…this type of claim seems to maybe raise an eyebrow or two…if you are a local to the break in question…but question the individual’s intellect, or his integrity as an individual. No, why…cause this would seem to me to be a big part of what the surfing experience is…the bigger wave, the better tube ride…etc…etc…etc…people making sometimes outrageous claims about what they have just done…but there is always the benefit of the doubt. So what I don’t understand is why all the bent reactions to Roy’s claims. I have read and reread the original thread and I don’t see him being all that arrogant in the original post, just saying that this is what I think I have done…can anyone say they have tried the same thing. I think the arrogance( perhaps rightly so) comes when people start making personal jabs at your intelligence, your honor…no one likes being called a liar.
Yes Roy makes some decidely different equipment…and I have seen him getting nailed on this forum for that as well.
I am not neccesarily defending his claims either…but this is a forum right…“f…o…r…u…m” I thought that meant a civil discussion…no name calling…no personal jabs…
I would like to see the naysayers offer some concrete proof of their own that it isn’t possible…but in the end…does it really matter…other than the fact that you are out there
So if you will excuse me I gotta get get back to those 60 foot waves…
When you say that you're the fastest surfer in the water, that your equipment is faster than the rest, when you said that Halcyon, or even Lexan know less than you about fin theory, when you claim your equipment as the way to go and a lot of things more, that's what happens. I don't know if you know a lot more about fins than Lexan, but you don't know it too.
Being so fast on a 1’ wave as on a 70’ wave? saying that tunnel fins are the solution to all the thrusters problems? Judging from a camcorder (yes, i have a good 3ccd camcorder) that you’re at 25 mph while the rest are at 15 mph speeds, are some of the things you can’t say if you want the people to stay passive.
At first i was reading Roy with attention and curiosity, but i can’t do it anymore. Maybe i have a special sense, or maybe i misunderstood his posts, but i feel like he attacked to another people here, and my intention isn’t attacking him but telling him that he can’t say that he knows it all.
Anyway, don’t worry, i won’t answer again a post from Roy, definitively we talk different languages and i’m not talking just about english and galician.
Roy have all my respect for his work, but i can’t say the same about his posts. Maybe i’m wrong, but i think i’m not the only one who thinks in that way.
well after seeing that ive come to the conclusion…
that roy livens this place up a bit …alot of the crew who come here would be considered out there …coz were doing things at the edge and pushing new boundries…but after seeing what roy is up to …its makes the rest of us look mainstream …
roy is funny … he has his place here …
personally ive found it all a bit amusing…
i think if we dont take roy to seriously then we couldnt possibly be offended by anything…
like i said on another thread …you leave no doubts in our minds anymore roy…
the more you say and show , the more we understand…
we all gain a little more insight into the extremes of the human psyche…
I don’t follow every thread on this site everyday, but why would Roy’s particpation even be up for question. The guy is clearly clever and logical. Perhaps where his logic leads him is not everyones cup of tea, but if you don’t agree then attack his arguments not his person. Argumentum ad hominem(abusive) is one informal fallacy that is always irrelevant. Patrick
Hi Laconic. Toe in won’t work with a tunnel but you could build a straight tunnel with toed in tabs for the finboxes. It would be better to use your back finbox, making a tunnel with a central spine which keys into the box. Not a perfect solution but the central spine shouldn’t affect handling. If you are parking one on a shortboard then you might need a sandbag to hold the nose down. Just kidding good luck. Roy.
