You had to be there rather than reading about it things changed so quickly . Or should I say having been there during this period in time was very exciting 
That Midget article was very good .
i have discussed this issue many times with midget
as he is being to modest to post this i will.
The 1967 photo (right) by Dick Graham had great significance. Dick took the shot at the Palm Beach, Windansea vs Australia contest in November 1967. When Dick shot this image there was not another board even slightly similar to it, in Australia or any other country. By comparison surfers like Nat and McTavish were still riding 9 foot plus. Nat was still riding ‘Sam’, his long round bottom Woods board (see below). McTavish had never seen a vee bottom until November 1967. The board McTavish saw in November 1967 was made in July 1967 at Palm Beach, NSW.
The board is in the Dick Graham photo.
Midget’s board was only 8 feet long by approx 22 inches wide. The bottom was heavily veed through the tail half, the nose was concaved and the fin was deeply cut away to allow tail drift. The board was specifically designed to ride waves less than head high. Gordon and Smith in San Diego made thousands of Midget’s vee botoms. They were very well received on the east coast USA where wave height on average is below head high.
The California media of the day tried to suppress news of this design as local advertizers had thousands of very long boards in stock ready for the northern summer. Dick published an image of this board (above) being surfed on the cover of his mag and broke the story.
As good as the vee bottom design was in small waves it was a disaster in overhead waves. The tail was meant to facillitate slide, which was great fun in small waves, but a nightmare in large waves. View any footage of the design (copies) being used in Hawaii and you will see the riders losing control as they attempt the turn. The design had a fairly short life as longer, streamlined shapes (Dick Brewer) proved more versatile in all waves. Midget only made one of these Vees! He rode it for five months or so before moving on to pintails.
Whilst Midget may lay claim to an original, the 1967 vee bottom, a shorter board in a time of longboards, he denies any connection to the achievements of those who created the shortboard revolution of the 1980’s. Time had yet to roll through all the outline, rocker and fin developments that led to where the multi finned boards emerged.
Midget’s vee bottom design had nothing to do with the ‘shortboard’ or ‘vertical’ revolution. Simon’s 1980’s ‘thruster’ and Col Smith’s vertical North Narrabeen surfing are what opened that door. The day that Simon won the Surfabout at North Narrabeen on his new thruster was the day the wheel really turned. Mark Richard’s twin fin did not have the drive to take him up the face into the top of the wave for the re entry, cut back, as did Simon’s ‘thruster’.
**and i am thinking you were very young at that time
i am sure you might be drawing a long string here **
the spiral v most defiantly belongs to bob but i am not sure many others know what it is?
the v used by mark Richards 70s is more in keeping with our later day thinking
there is but one board on the beach that day in November the rest nothing more than logs {to days term}
**a lot gets written about history and a lot is not fact **
cheers huie
…doe
s it look like this?
Bottoms are great…
thats the reason anyone with any knowledge can not be bothered posting here
dopes like you
seems like some of you can not stand the truth
truth is that no one wants to post a photo of Spiral vee. How about you Huie? You build awesome surfboards. you own a camera. maybe three photos…
you would need to read my post to griffin
quote frrom g/gt
While vee itself is a design feature, the "vee-bottom board" refers to a design McTavish came up with in 1967: a wide-backed, thick-tailed -
i am addressing this issue directly with him
pay attention
cheers huie
pic.
http://www.swaylocks.com/sites/default/files/Spiral%20Vee..%3F%20_1.jpg
Although on a SUP swallow tail, these pic show the standard vee that I use.
You can see the vee decreasing as you move towards the tail, and if the shape was extended to a rounded pin-tail
the vee would continue into flat, ie no vee at tail end.
Maybe I’m doing spiral vee without knowing it? 
The Midget photo is good enough , you can see the wide curve forward tappering to the narrow crest of the Vee .
No double concaves , rail lines turning down etc.
Not sure what Huie is saying to myself but very glad he is posting since he was there and not refering to an article
Pro shapers please post a photo.
Thank you all. If I understand correctl; The term “Spiral Vee” is archaic and doesn’t apply in modern terms. A design that evolved into something differant or is no longer in use. And yet every “newb” or “expert” on this site uses the term to describe their first build, second build etc. you guys just spent 2 or 3 threads several pages and Barnfiekd’s “Hotseat” trying to describe it. Point is that if spiral Vee is so popular these days; how come there is so much misinformation about it?? L
“how come there is so much misinformation about it?”
Misreported history to start .
Making more of what is , to sell and hype a design .
Very common in Surfing .
Don’t know if this is the real deal but it’s close enough. At least it’s close to what I’ve seen that other people were calling a “spiral vee.” It takes a bit of imagination to visualize water actually ‘spiralling’ through the dual concaves but it’s not a huge stretch. Back in the day, visualization seemed a little easier for some reason…
Is this the spiral Brewer speaks of in his 1971 interview I posted and what Bob wrote about in the late 60’s ?
Quote: “The term “Spiral Vee” is archaic and doesn’t apply in modern terms. A design that evolved into something differant or is no longer in use.”
I don’t know about the term, but as a design feature it’s valid, proven and functional still today, even after 40 odd years.
(referring to the no concave vee definition)
Hi greggriffin - Don’t know. Got any pics? HAHA - maybe it’s all just an illusion???
Its become a rumor
Hi Greg G
Funny stuff. For some strange reason you can post awesome photos of your surfboards…really nice stuff…almost looks like an add…
…but you are not able to post a simple photo of this Vee Stuff…? On a GG surfboard… on this thread…mystery is a good thing.
I know nothing…Ray.
Aloha Stingray
A photo was posted. Didn’t you see it?
Greg nor anyone else is ever likely to post a contemporary board with original spiral vee in it because… as you have noticed… it doesn’t really exist in its original form anymore. Shortly after, name was applied across numerous bottom types.
It is a catchy name for sure! And over several decades it has taken on a life far beyond the original designs scope and application. So in that tradition…. Shape a few boards, apply the name to any bottom feature you like, take pictures, post them up as Spiral Vees and become the newest legend in the latest use of the old design.
No one is keeping any secrets or hiding photos to enhance a mystery.
BB