Suncure graphic screens?

Has anyone tried making logo screens with Suncure? Would Suncure hold in monofilament screen? My polymer photo emulsion starts leaking after several pulls. Resin might be more permanent.

Noodle…do you mean that you’re actually “silkscreening” resin through a photoscreen? I have done this (not for years, though, and not with the suncure/u. v. resins)…what # mesh you using, and what type of photoscreen?..diazo or dichromate? (or a cut film screen?) Is this for logos or for complicated artwork with halftones? you can’t get too many runs, and it is a bit rough getting a good crisp image (my attempts. {but maybe crisp isn’t what you are after}). Fill me in. T.

Noodle…do you mean that you’re actually “silkscreening” resin > through a photoscreen? I have done this (not for years, though, and not > with the suncure/u. v. resins)…what # mesh you using, and what type of > photoscreen?..diazo or dichromate? (or a cut film screen?) Is this for > logos or for complicated artwork with halftones? you can’t get too many > runs, and it is a bit rough getting a good crisp image (my attempts. {but > maybe crisp isn’t what you are after}). Fill me in. T. I want to use Suncure as photo emulsion for printing with oil and acrylic. I have done some logo screens for rice paper. I’ve made a few T shirts and small-ish signs. I don’t have a tax number. I work only for myself and “friends”. That’s my story, and I’m stickin’ to it. I generate graphics on computer, print auto positives, and burn them into photo emulsion screens. For obvious reasons I won’t get too exact on screen mesh except to say this. Screen mesh and ink depend on the application and absorbency of the print media. T shirts and water acrylic ink require a larger mesh than rice paper and oil ink. I don’t have a turntable, just homemade jigs …hand registry for multiple colors. Besides Suncure’s durability, it’s clarity would be a real asset for hand registry. I don’t have a flash oven, so plastisol is out …dark and colored inks on light T cloth only. I won’t venture into halftones yet. The holes get too small for my current system. There’s an interplay between water based photo emulsion and water based acrylic that limits my screen life. Acrylic inks tend to harden on the screen. Washing and scrubbing screen with detergent and water to remove ink remove the polymer emulsion. I’ve tried different water based emulsion. This is as good as they get. Hardened Suncure isn’t suluable in anything. I’m no artist, but I know some things about what graphics work well in print. Some “friends” want artwork for the price of the screen. Others appreciate my cost and effort. I charge for the artwork, even if it ain’t that fancy. Like board building, printing is just a hobby.

Noodle…so you want to use the suncure as a photo emulsion to make the screen itself?!(is that what you meant?!). Pretty crafty! How would you blow out the positive “ink” area (which did not receive light) once the screen is exposed, though?! You said some of your emulsion was coming off when you cleaned your screens…that could be from under exposure of your photo screens. Do you make your own emulsion, or use something pre-sensitized? Also, if you’re having trouble getting the acrylic inks out of your screen, have you tried a high pressure hose focused in the discharge area?! I have used…get this… a water pik to dislodge stubborn ink (taking special care not to disturb the emulsion). Do you know about screen drawing fluid and laquer blockout combo (for hand drawn images?). I’m trying to get it straight here so I can maybe be of some help (BFA, U. of H. textile minor) (Yeah, big friggin’ deal, huh?). I was trying to figure out what this particular application was for. would be glad to help. T. (p.s. I, too,{at times in my life} have thumbed my nose at the tax man…I made silkscreens out of the ends of papaya crates to make home made t-shirts…which provided me with some cash for tuition at U.H.)!

Noodle…so you want to use the suncure as a photo emulsion to make the > screen itself?!(is that what you meant?!). Pretty crafty! How would you > blow out the positive “ink” area (which did not receive light) > once the screen is exposed, though?! You said some of your emulsion was > coming off when you cleaned your screens…that could be from under > exposure of your photo screens. Do you make your own emulsion, or use > something pre-sensitized? Also, if you’re having trouble getting the > acrylic inks out of your screen, have you tried a high pressure hose > focused in the discharge area?! I have used…get this… a water pik to > dislodge stubborn ink (taking special care not to disturb the emulsion). > Do you know about screen drawing fluid and laquer blockout combo (for hand > drawn images?). I’m trying to get it straight here so I can maybe be of > some help (BFA, U. of H. textile minor) (Yeah, big friggin’ deal, huh?). I > was trying to figure out what this particular application was for. would > be glad to help. T. (p.s. I, too,{at times in my life} have thumbed my > nose at the tax man…I made silkscreens out of the ends of papaya crates > to make home made t-shirts…which provided me with some cash for tuition > at U.H.)! Tom, Cool! I’ve known lots of people with University of Houston Degrees :wink: Thanks for the help. I’ve used premix emulsion and mix-it-yourself emulsion of a few types. The premix polymer emulsion I’m using now is the strongest I’ve found. It also has a more liberal exposure range. After washing out emulsion burns, I always bake the remaining emulsion. I’ve washed acrylic ink off screens with a shower massage, a paint gun, an air brush, and scrubbing. I even tried chemicals. Like I wrote, this is as good as it gets. I was hoping to find someone who has burned screens with Suncure. Commercial photo emulsion air dries before exposure. Suncure has no such air-dried state. Exposure would require some method of applying and holding an autopositive directly onto wet resin, then removing the auto positive for washing with acetone. Maybe a wax paper buffer would allow autopositive removal, while still allowing enough light transmission to expose the Suncure. I might try this method on a dirty screen. The cost of failure is the labor and material of stretching a new screen. Acrylics usually dirty my screens enough anyway to require replacement.

HUI!..Noodle!..Doubt if you will see this. I don’t always go back that far in the threads after a few days…(Maybe I oughtta!). That was U. of HAWAII at manoa, I went to, Bruddah! Man…sounds like a messy proposition…the suncure, but “geeve 'um” if you’re gung ho. Really difficult your way, though. (attempting that with long lasting success). Brah, you must be really hard on the squeegie. You DO clean your screens pretty quickly after a couple of runs, right?! You can’t let acrylics dry or stay in the screen too long. You can always patch the holes you get in your screens. T.

HUI!..Noodle!..Doubt if you will see this. I don’t always go back that > far in the threads after a few days…(Maybe I oughtta!). That was U. of > HAWAII at manoa, I went to, Bruddah! Man…sounds like a messy > proposition…the suncure, but “geeve 'um” if you’re gung ho. > Really difficult your way, though. (attempting that with long lasting > success). Brah, you must be really hard on the squeegie. You DO clean your > screens pretty quickly after a couple of runs, right?! You can’t let > acrylics dry or stay in the screen too long. You can always patch the > holes you get in your screens. T. UH? Yeah, little joke… yuk yuk I do my best to clean screens quickly, but hand registration slows the process. It also requires me to wipe screens between drags. That much wiping has got to wear away emulsion as fast as cleaning. I’ve been trying to make enough time to build a registration jig. Maybe my time would be better spent building a jig than trying to nail resin to my screens.