SUP/Windsrufer?? Best of both worlds???

Have you guys seen this?? I was actually googling to see if some had done it… yep someone has, Mistral…

I had been thinking of something more along the lines of a smaller, bat-wing (as sometimes seen on canoes) type sail that could be deployed (somehow) using the paddle (and possibly the surfer) as part of the mast/boom structure. If a socket was embedded in the deck, it might be possible to use it as a kind of “universal anchor” for leaning post, fishing pole, or mast. It might also be possible to have a take-part paddle shaft that would server as the upright member for each application.

-Samiam

Richie Buehn and Steve Forstall are building them also. Richie just finished a huge SUP quad fish. I asked him where the pole holders were and he said he hadn’t put them in yet. :slight_smile:

where there were old transition windsurfers

the spontaneous generation of stand upstarts

generated…duh Maui?

yup.

the crossover attitudes

of guys who couldnt surf

that became the sailboard hotties

are coming back to dominate with a ?vengance?

sail boards thet yall can up hall?

show Knuff!

look fer em in yer local fijord

Bjorn and Murray

and mebe biff heliport

are gonna make their comeback

up haul me mrs Zanuck

and the new movie " sup Dock"

out this summer staring chip Arkin and

roselle hanover

filming at the paradise cove trailerspark

right now …sneak in from dume and get

barbara steisands autograph

she plays roselle’s mom the psychaitryst

who has the hots for Robert cummings’ sarcogaphgas

and gets caught stealing it from forest lawn.

a real blast for the whole family.

they are looking for stunt doubles and extras for the

mass landing scene.

They want a thousand boards to swarm the beach at once.

this movie is gonna be greater than

blue crush ,beach blanquet bungalo, and ride the wild surf ,and surf nazi must die put together.

gretchen goober and the surfy chick casting center

are lining up talent in their trailer at the state park right now.

Munoz refuses to wear a wig this time.

get in line early

nieve and impresionable young boys and girls

are high on the list of prefered

extras…

dont tell em I told you its supposed to be a secret.

and dont tell the maui guys or they will wanna hog the lens.

…ambrose…

oh yeah eric von fitzshorts

is the director

fresh from the filming of

“The Diabolical Doctor is in the House”

a really cool horror film based on

nonsequitors and puns from the new testament.

Quote:

the crossover attitudes

of guys who couldnt surf

that became the sailboard hotties

are coming back to dominate with a ?vengance?

ROFL!!

The “sailboard hotties” as you call them couldn’t surf??

Rush Randle, Laird Hamilton, the Angulo’s, Robby Naish, Dave Kalama, Robert Teritehau… you asserting these folks can’t surf?? Do I smell some “anti windyrig” sentiment?

Whatever happened to allround watermanship?

ambrose understands many TRUTHS behind the reasons people do things and how things originated,

some of these truths people dont like and many of us are too afraid to explore because of what we may learn about ourselves

in terms of surf greatness there is a difference between being a dancing bear (look how cool I am) and being someone who understands timing and ones place in things (how can I help you)

not a put-down just another perspective to consider, take care

the primary guys who couldn’t surf were land locked euros

and midwestern american skiers

and tundra caterpillar opperators

that just wanted surfing “--------”

so bad they could taste it

but couldn’t comit to wave chasing as easily as

doing laps on a sail craft.

who can surf?

those who surf necessarily

i.e.

seals dolphins and other organisms

do so to survive their environment

fishermen who fish the coast are a breed apart from thosse in rivers and lakes

those who fish santa barbara are differrent than those that fish morro bay or the great northwest

sailophiles are supermen

as are kite fliers and

towists.

they are none of them surfers until they catch a wave.

and wind assist and motor assist are primarily a breed apart .

the elegance and commitment

to achieve the no

paddle take off

to liken ourselves

to our extra species brethern

the seal and dolphin

is a quest exclusive

of any deliterious

flotsam i.e. ‘necessary equiptment’

taste a pure ride

on a wave and all the junk in between fades.

name dropping media select

icons to farther an

identity arguement

is falling on deaf ears.

the hoards unleashed

with popout equiptment

scantly trained or mannered will come to bite

promotors asses .

meanwhile waves will go unridden

while ““SURFERS””

on the Rhine and in the dalmatian sea or hudson bay and lago de garda

or lake tanganika

maybe TITICACA

then the bosphrus and the sea of cortez

every one a surfer…a surfer in the real sense

one that buys corperate surf products

to justify and deliniate

their Identities as individuals.

saliboarding is not wave sailing

waterskiing is not surfing.

I listened to buzzy trent

when he said :

it isnt surfing.

the good surfers have been driven to darkness

the photos of the old guys heats at the buffalo contest

were tear jerkers. those old guys can still surf.

why you dont see em surf is because the venues

swamis malibu rincon sunset

are clogged with

eager dedicated novices and beginers

and alternative watercrafts

some from the immediate vacinity as well

as world travlers collecting stickers for their

21st century steaming trunks.

hot surfers from major land locked cities world wide

who live surfing all the time they spend away from the ocean

and demand recognition along with returning

impressarios picking up their equiptment after

laying the craft down for ten to fourty years.

The transition sailboard oppertunity

to access beach boy style

stand up padle surfing

{my primary point my dear lad}

is the obvious kindling for the growing forest fire

about to overwhelm the surfing world

from stockholm to doheny

and every body of water world wide.

and every body will want the ego gratification

of snagging a wave at the bu and one in front of the SRF

and one from the indicator and one from the peir

and all those guys can surf name em off.

but none of em surf like buzzy trent.

thats why he hung it up.

…ambrose…

trying to get puffy about

justifying an over commitment to a watercraft

specialty aka picking an arguement

with me falls on deaf ears

I am too tired from being in the water on my mat.

and I ditched everybody and surfed by myself.

Ambrose,

still sounds a tad jaded to my ear…

You see a horde of fluorescent kooks ruining your waves, I see an interesting design that does something I was wondering about. I’ll continue to ride a variety of equipment, in a variety of conditions and I don’t give a hoot whether some oke in hawaii thinks I am or not a “surfer”. I make my own boards and ride 'em how I like. And whilst your posts are amusing, they still detract from the design aspect of this thread, namely a SUP board that can be used as a sailboard, sorry if Buzzy and you disapprove…

you want jaded?

not a chance

perhaps galvanized

but far from jaded

I have been utilizing leftover and scraps from the get go.

I was raised in a circumstance far from privilidged

my genius has been applied creativly

and with respect

you can use a door for a table.

You can ride aything you want

any time you want

any where you want

I am not trying to discourage you from doing that

the oppertunity to express yourself

in your availiable venue is what design growth is for…

dont try to get puffed up and distort

my coments into self serving arguement

be put on notice I have been riding diffrent watercraft options from my day one

try to catch up. I did about forty years forward

and now I am working backward reviewing backwards from 1961

to get a better idea about why the guys that came before me deserve more respect.

I was the kid that spray painted flourescents on my stuff in 1962

wetsuits were black because thats all the neophrene they made

and It Wasnt bonded to nylon

it took off skin abrasively

my first wetsuit was five sizes too big and was a hand me down

some oke?

you mean

Oakie?

my folks went west before oklahoma was a territory

and the oakies fled the dustbowl in the 1930s

perhaps 80 years after they emmigrated west.

or uke?

or Moke?

you are a surfer if you muss up your hair

or bleach it

or wear a surfy t-ee shirt

or let your hair grow long over one eye so you can flip it out of the way

or grow your hair long to save the sunbleached hair you aquired last summer or the summer before

or tell people you are a surfer

or make a cool board and go surking once … in a while

or drive arround with a board on the roof of your car

give a hoot?

you mean you wouldn’t hoot your approval when I caught a wave

on my reshape 8’4 blue foam at ano nuevo in 1963

on my 6’8’'roescach hull in may of 1968 at the rivermouth in santacruz ?

or my three stringer reshape asquare tail at cannons in matzatlan in july of 1968?

or my 7’6’’ swirl bottom minigun pintailat twelve foot hanalei in november 1968?

all because you were riding a brand new copy of a new mass market shape?

the stand up board sailboard I made in 1982

is still outside in my collection of boards

you obviously didnt care to inspect it as closely as the mistral advertisemrnt

you reprinted.

a swell design to plagerise.

I wanna make a stand up 13’ paddle board with an outrigger

and an adjustable track for the planing ama I shaped in 1972

before I bought my laser sailboat

to ride summertime outside hanalei

buzzy trent was the kind of surfer I have learned to look up to.

as was Dale velzy

and Dale Solomonson

and george Greenough

and others including wind surfers

and guys that owned chevy nomads

and volksvagon beetles with built in kitchens

Buzzy didnt bother to disapprove he just died.

after riding the most advanced boards availiable in his time

in the biggest waves on the surfing planet.

and hang gliding the cliffs of makapuu

you miss the point of my posts so easily,

not to amuse but

to inform and pay respect where respect is due.

I congradulate you on making your own boards

and for thinking about design.

…ambrose…

surfer joe was a lame popular song of the 60’s

that was heralded as iconic by the un innitiated

and scorned by practicing surfing esthetics

good wishes surfer dave.