Not sure what you're asking there Reverb.
250g epoxy was plenty to wet out 1 x 4oz on this foam.
I usually do 1 x6oz each side of fins but I wanted to keep the weight down and test out the epoxy with 1 x 4oz for the fins.
Hey MDS,
No problems what so ever, blank was not very thirsty. Kinetix goes a long way. and finishes very well.
Still doesn't have that blue bright white look of a poly lammed board though.
darren i think reverb is saying thats a lot off resin for that lam?
i will strt a cple next week
** sorry for the delay.
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darren i think reverb is saying thats a lot off resin for that lam?
i will strt a cple next week
sorry for the delay.
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They were the amounts I mixed up, and there was some left over that went to either seal blanks or fill dings in EPS boards so nothing went to waste.
I also didn't want to be working with frothy soapy resin that you get from trying to rob the lam of resin to wet out the laps to tell everyone how much of a gun glasser I am by only using a thimble full of epoxy to lam six longboards at once.
Looking forward to see what you come up with Huie.
I've ordered a couple more yellows today. Next order will be plain yellows to do some rail stringer work with different materials.
Hey Darren
I'm with you on the frothy resin thing.
I did rob the lam once and it frothed like a mother #$%@*
Now I make sure I have plenty to wet out.
If i dont, I mix up some more.
I do the flip lap thing and let it get a good soaking before flipping back down and tucking.
Nice clean and fully wet out lams every time.
If i waste 100 mls or so, big deal.
Would rather waste a bit and get good result than skimp out with a mess job just to save a few bucks.
Make sure you post result of rail stringers
Cheers
Did I miss something here////////what size is the board for the weight you netted? Dims mate, dims.
Thanks
My yellow sits…orders first ya know…and I’m hip with the pro comment.
Pro’s don’t pay my mortgage.
Hey DS,
Yeah mate you missed something, a few posts back.
5'11 x 18 3/8" x 2 1/4 x 11 1/4" x 14". Surfer that the board was built for weighs 68kg and has an unhealthy obsession for light boards, to the detriment of those who build them for him. seeing the things that you put so much effort into building to get right disintergrate within months is no fun at all.
Yeah MDS, you use the amount of resin you think you need and not what someone tells you you should.
If you think that 250g of resin (1 metric cup) is a lot you must be laminating on another plain of consciousness.
**hey darren dont shoot the messenger mybe reverb should explain himself better.
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what i was realy aiming at with this thread was to do a board in a compsand style using midgets yellow instead of e p s.
the ones i do will be in that fashion.
but the one you have done is all usefull info lets have no agro lets keep this project alive
the amount of resin you like to work with is your buisness’’ if we could keep records of shaped weight finished weight what material used
so i will start one on monday plan is to send it down the east coast with as many guys jumping on it as poss mybe it could end up at your place
you could then give an un biased oppinion of its wear & tear if its still ok you could send it on its return journey
**lets get this ball rolling
**
…for an epoxy glass you use little for the lam and excesive too much for the hot coat…
almost twice than a polyester hotcoat!
not good ratios
and I repeat 1 4oz per fin side is useless
this reminds me the thread in gral disc that someone posted a shaping clip and the guy shaped the board in 12min
a crappy shape of course
I try to say that if you are only think in weight
yes you can build whatever stuff
in late 80s I glassed a bunch with 1 4oz per side of the boards; glass ons only laminated without hot coat; PU fins too; speed finished, etc
I guess it takes all kinds…some guys are one ply tissue wipers and other guys want two ply. Either way, it can get ‘messy’ if ya don’t wipe right?
Nah no agro Huie, I think emotions and intentions can get a bit misinterpreted in written form and I only used your quote as this seemed like the way Reverb intended his question. Maybe my reply should have had one of those rolling eyes emoticons as this was more the response I intended.
Would be great if your board could make it down this way. How about something on the smallish side as we aren't all big fellas.
Reverb I didn't post the numbers as a pissing contest and believe it or not I've built surfboards before. If 250ml wasn't enough lam resin I would have mixed up some more, and the hotcoat didn't slump, sheet or seperated and I did have about 70g leftover which went to sealing another blank so the ratios were fine. I dont know what the comment to the 12min shape was referring to, But, and please correct me if I'm wrong, I dont think you have either worked with this brand of resin or this particular mixture of surfblanks Australia foam to know what the ratios needed for the surfboard were.
While I respect your opinion as a fellow professional I have built a pretty successful surfboard business doing things the way I have.
Maybe you reply wasn't intended to be taken the way I received it,but its all good bra and maybe we can see some of your stuff on this particular foam if you get it.
Cheers
Daren
hey sorry to have not got back for so long but i realy wanted to do these yellows in a vac with epoxy’’
but& it is a big but i am so sensitised to f####ken epoxy i cant get near it
i do want to do all this ussing innegra
so for the moment i will have to watch what you guys are doing till i figure somthing out’’
bruce how did yours go
**& darren how is the one you done standing up
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huie,
so after reading this thread i have put aside the chunk of eps i have and ordered a surfblanks yellow.
so what info do you want?
weight of shaped blank
weight after glassing
what do you suggest for glass schedule? i have some 2oz and 4oz innegra to test and i have a friend who has some .6mm bamboo veneer.
i was going to go with just the 2oz innegra under the bamboo on the deck and none under bamboo on the bottom with 4oz over the veneer top and bottom. kinetix epoxy.
i have a window of 2 weeks at the start of december to get it done so i will report back after that…
cheers,
scot
**it was the g l build i was refering to at the begining only difference was using the yellow instead of e p s **
if you go what sched you got there it would be bomb proof
i am not sure what design you are chasing but i will give you my number give me a ring we can talk it over
**i will pm you
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I'm building one using the US Blanks Red formula. With a strong core and innegra and my secrete sauce I will have a pretty well made surfboard. However I need to see them on a wave before I can tell if there any good or not?
We need more video's on Swaylocks!
Just shaped the new yellow 6-2 fish blank, OMG! So far shaped great really light and really tight cell structure! Should glass light. We’ll see how it rides seems to be extremely light.
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hey sorry to have not got back for so long but i realy wanted to do these yellows in a vac with epoxy''
but& it is a big but i am so sensitised to f####ken epoxy i cant get near it
i do want to do all this ussing innegra
so for the moment i will have to watch what you guys are doing till i figure somthing out''
bruce how did yours go
& darren how is the one you done standing up
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Board has just come in for a repair on a crease from boosting and landing in the flats off a closeout.
very surprised it didn't snap.
Deck is holding up extremely well for the schedule and type of foam.
Fins are holding on fine ;)
will try to take some pics when i get a chance.
Daren
hey** reverb here we are 1 yr later** ** and i just read this. so how are these blanks working out**? (flexcells parabolic stringers)
cheers huie
…hello man,
…very low quality pict of one of those, shaped…
well, I only shaped those for shortboards
-they re very strong (if you not overshape it) and “lively”…and expensive
I glassed all with 2 x 4oz Aerialite and 1 on bottom, sanded and speed finished.
the other day I was checking out of the water a local ripper kid board that I made him about 7 months ago, the deck was in perfect conditions and the bottom almost nuthin, couple of minor dents.
Im still thinking of doing what previously said about vac bag, etc but Surfblanks Brazil don t have (I think) those 1mm stringers, etc
but in the near future (depends on money…) I think that all my shortboards under 6´ I ll make with the flexcells, Aerialite and Utg 4wfs boxes (that are on my way in few days) and speed finish
we ll see
hey reverb looks interesting enough.
i started this thread with the intention of doing some vac work with yellows but got sidetracked somewhat?
so now i have moved on to the pink for vacum i have one about half finished BUT
it started pissing down here a few days back and we realy coped som shite early hrs this morning
abot 1 ft water through my shaping and glassing rooms so when i can clean up and get the pink finished
i will post my thoughts till then if we dont float away haaa’’
** cheers huie
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To all of those who have surfed/built yellows, how have the decks held up? I ask this question as I think how deep your footwells are (if there are any) is a good comparison of compression strength from foam type to foam type and foam density to foam density. Provided you use the same resin and glassing schedule of course.
