surfboard design basics

aloha everybody!

can you all please share some thaughts and eleborate on wether this makes sense.i have been surfing for 30 years and until now just choose surfboards by look and feel, is this what i was looking for all along?

  1. wide point under front foot?

  2. fin placement as wide as foot size?

  3. apex of rocker under front foot?

  4. bump,hip,curve around fins? 

You should shape one for yourself to find what boards are all about.

~Brian

thanks for nothing

 

o wait, just checked out your website, you were gona supply me with the materials free so it wouldnt matter how clueless i was when i started!

Hey gorrilla, there’s a wealth of information on the forum to help you with shaping and building your first board, and lots of guys with knowledge and experience who are willing to share.  Your original post was kinda vague, to me anyway, so maybe others felt the same.  I didn’t really understand what your questions were, specifically.

As far as where you want to put your widest point in the planshape, you can look through the Quiver archives and get lots of ideas, also might give blendingcurves.com a try, there is a variety of templates there also.  Bumps, wings, hips, and curves are all part of the template shape, although on your first few boards it seems that simpler and cleaner templates are best, save the stingers and bumps for later on.

Fin layout and placement is dependent on a lot of factors, foot size is not one I’ve ever heard of 'tho.  More often its board shape, type of waves being surfed, skill level and preference of rider, etc.  

Rocker Apex is kind of a loaded term, with no one clear definition.  You could do a search using “rocker apex” and get a lot of food for thought, 'tho, as its been discussed on here many times.

I don’t know if any this helps, it probably doesn’t answer your questions, because like I said, I really don’t know what exactly your questions were.  But maybe it gives a little more food for thought, or areas for research, or maybe it’ll help you explain more clearly what you’re trying to find out.

If you want some surfboard design advice, you might try posting pics and giving more details of yourself, your home break, your favorite boards - so that people have a better idea of things like your age, size, skill and experience level, type of waves you normally ride, etc.

You can always begin by copying a board you like a lot, then trying different modifications on successive boards, to see what works best for you.  Which I think is what Brian was getting at with his comment to start shaping and see what its all about.  Eventually, you might end up like a lot of us here, with more boards than you need, and more on the way.  Its a rewarding addiction, making surfboards.  

thanks for the advice, specifically i was wondering if the ideas i listed were generally accepted as basics when custom tailering a board for someone ???

No, I wouldn’t say so.

I would say the things that are generally accepted are things like finding what boards have worked well for them in the past, then maybe adjusting with more length and / or volume for bigger, older, and less experienced surfers.  More rocker for late takeoffs on faster, hollower waves.  Stuff like that.

Like I said before, if you want some personalized surfboard design advice, you might try posting pics and giving more details of yourself, your home break, your favorite boards so far - so that people have a better idea of things like your age, size, skill and experience level, type of waves you normally ride, etc.  These are the things it is generally accepted that a shaper would need to know in order to build a custom board.

Each experienced shaper has a “bag of tricks” all their own, meaning little design tweaks and shape recommendations they have become familiar with over the years, and that is all pretty personalized to the shaper, not so much “generally accepted”.  Surfboard shapes and styles all seem to revolve around certain averages, but it is very difficult to pin down what exactly is generally accepted.

As an example, thruster fin configurations are generally accepted among the boardbuying public, but there are plenty of really good shapers who prefer single fins, twins, quads, and even five fin setups.