2nd job?
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Vader
some funny shit
Im still chuckling
high-tech vacuum-bagged pizza’s over here!
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all you guys ordering pop out pizza.
i got custom pizzas for sale lol
Ha ha…classic.
Gee willicers mate, calm down. Seems I may have stepped on some aussie dick here. In terms of “well paid” I suppose I was referring to a relative well paid, you know, Joel vs Kelly et al. And I’m glad you liked the site Pop-outs or not. Gotta love that Michaelangelo bit…sooo tasty. Give Nat a kiss for me.
needs more askance.
Why would I when there are hundreds of excellent pizza shops
all over here that are so good you’d slap a koala.
That made me laugh out loud mate. I mean, shit, that’d have to be bloody good pizza to make you wanna slap a koala.
Made my day, thanks mate. I’ll use that ( though in true aussie form i’ll claim its an old aussie saying hahahaha )
Slap a koala is that like
spank a monkey or choke the chicken.
I saw a Surftech Joel Tudor board today. I went straight to the pizza place. Didn’t even surf.
Now…about this koala stuff…Hmmm?
we got the whole Joel Tudor is the new messiah of the modern retro (whatever the fuck modern retro means) spiel here too it’s just that we didn’t quite swallow it so easily.
No doubt he’s a good surfer. I had the good fortune to surf with him a couple of times when he was in Oz in 2001.
On a longboard he’s as smooth as a cat, fluid and unbelievably graceful. That was at the Pass.
At Snapper Rocks on a 7 foot singlefin egg he was smooth and easy on the eye. Did he stand out?
Not really. I thought he surfed well within the limitations of his equipment.
By contrast I’ve seen Neal Purchase Jnr on a Pavel single-fin at Lennox point.
He pushed that single-fin to it’s limits in a display of controlled radical surfing.
Sure it didn’t make the pages of the US surf mags (or the Aussie ones for that matter).
But it happened.
The mags and movies are always telling us what to think and feel. Whats cool and whats not.
Joel Tudor Inc. is part of this commercial orthodoxy.
Sure artists can be succesful but they remain independent of marketplace dictates.
Thats called freedom. The freedom to create.
I don’t see anything of that in Joel Tudor.
Just a well packaged, well marketed phenomena.
I personally think that Derek Hynd in Litmus and Tom Curren have been much more influential agents of change in destroying the potato chip thruster orthodoxy and ushering in the “modern retro” movement.
Joel seems like a cruisy character and for those who gain employment from his commercial reality I can understand completely how you would think he is the ducks nuts.
I see a different reality here though.
In alot of ways it’s money for jam being a “modern retro” surfer.
What Greenough calls Pro Soul.
Freed from the actual constraints of having to achieve anything via competition they are free to smoke trees of weed and ape bygone eras which have now become fashionable to the marketplace.
Looks like Devolution to me.
I see guys like Np Jnr and others taking design threads from other eras and actually progressing them; using the extra float and resistance to enhance modern surfing, not drag it back to the seventies.
Anyway it definitely ain’t cool to criticise this modern retro orthodoxy or dare suggest there might be alternative visions out there. No-one wants to be labelled a hater or be seen to be negative.
Better to run with the herd.
And I apologise for coming out swinging about the gay askance comment (even though it was very funny).
To be called gay by a gallery curator who uses Michelangelo to sell pop-outs is more than a koala can bear.
Anyway don’t wanna distract from the pizza deal which is fukn funny.
Steve
Did you ride the board?
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we got the whole Joel Tudor is the new messiah of the modern retro (whatever the fuck modern retro means) spiel here too it’s just that we didn’t quite swallow it so easily.
No doubt he’s a good surfer. I had the good fortune to surf with him a couple of times when he was in Oz in 2001.
On a longboard he’s as smooth as a cat, fluid and unbelievably graceful. That was at the Pass.
At Snapper Rocks on a 7 foot singlefin egg he was smooth and easy on the eye. Did he stand out?
Not really. I thought he surfed well within the limitations of his equipment.
By contrast I’ve seen Neal Purchase Jnr on a Pavel single-fin at Lennox point.
He pushed that single-fin to it’s limits in a display of controlled radical surfing.
Sure it didn’t make the pages of the US surf mags (or the Aussie ones for that matter).
But it happened.
The mags and movies are always telling us what to think and feel. Whats cool and whats not.
Joel Tudor Inc. is part of this commercial orthodoxy.
Sure artists can be succesful but they remain independent of marketplace dictates.
Thats called freedom. The freedom to create.
I don’t see anything of that in Joel Tudor.
Just a well packaged, well marketed phenomena.
I personally think that Derek Hynd in Litmus and Tom Curren have been much more influential agents of change in destroying the potato chip thruster orthodoxy and ushering in the “modern retro” movement.
Joel seems like a cruisy character and for those who gain employment from his commercial reality I can understand completely how you would think he is the ducks nuts.
I see a different reality here though.
In alot of ways it’s money for jam being a “modern retro” surfer.
What Greenough calls Pro Soul.
Freed from the actual constraints of having to achieve anything via competition they are free to smoke trees of weed and ape bygone eras which have now become fashionable to the marketplace.
Looks like Devolution to me.
I see guys like Np Jnr and others taking design threads from other eras and actually progressing them; using the extra float and resistance to enhance modern surfing, not drag it back to the seventies.
Anyway it definitely ain’t cool to criticise this modern retro orthodoxy or dare suggest there might be alternative visions out there. No-one wants to be labelled a hater or be seen to be negative.
Better to run with the herd.
And I apologise for coming out swinging about the gay askance comment (even though it was very funny).
To be called gay by a gallery curator who uses Michelangelo to sell pop-outs is more than a koala can bear.
Anyway don’t wanna distract from the pizza deal which is fukn funny.
Steve
Right on the money Lenox. I still can’t help seeing the Irony of those who have useds singles all these years and ripped on them not getting the proper credit. Instead…if it doesn’t come out of California or surf magazines it’s just not valid.
So that’s what ‘askance’ means? Funny. This whole thread has gotten entertaining. Lennox/Steve, you original post seemed to express regional favoritism or Nationalism than anything else. Surfing is so subjective. Solo showed a lot of restraint. He didn’t slip Cheyne into the discussion until the 77th entry. Didn’t the retro thing start back in 92 or so with the rebirth of longboarding? Who reads the surfing mags? I just thumb through all the photos of kids boosting airs in head high slop to the one or two interesting photos per issue. Anyway, I’d rather watch Lopez getting barreled at Padang or Mark Richards ripping 10 foot Sunset on his six foot twin fin than all the guys mentioned so far.
How’s that 9-4 surf, anyway? Mike
joel tudor inc…now thats the funniest shit ive ever heard on here.
your opinions are truly biast.
you use workds like seems like to describe some one shows you truly dont even know so what you say holds no water.
yah aussies are the best surfers and they are the creaters all things style and soul is what you are saying.
ok we get you dont think joel can surf…obviously you opinions of surfng are different.you state how smooth and cat like his surfing is…then you claim him to be a phenomena.
your false accusations of him are result of you ignorant koala slapping upbringing
lennox i can feel the hate in you
come to the dark side.
lol
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So that’s what ‘askance’ means? Funny. This whole thread has gotten entertaining. Lennox/Steve, you original post seemed to express regional favoritism or Nationalism than anything else. Surfing is so subjective. Solo showed a lot of restraint. He didn’t slip Cheyne into the discussion until the 77th entry. Didn’t the retro thing start back in 92 or so with the rebirth of longboarding? Who reads the surfing mags? I just thumb through all the photos of kids boosting airs in head high slop to the one or two interesting photos per issue. Anyway, I’d rather watch Lopez getting barreled at Padang or Mark Richards ripping 10 foot Sunset on his six foot twin fin than all the guys mentioned so far.
How’s that 9-4 surf, anyway? Mike
I couldn’t help it…we were discussing single fins and it begs the obvious…but your point is well taken. Also…I have said nothing but positive about Joel. The guy surfs really well and is pretty nice. I don’t think the aussies are all that is everything in surfing either. Or any group. It’s just most of the magazines would have you think nothing worthwhile goes on outside of the South Pacific Islands or California. Nothing against Californians…they can’t help it if the entire hype machine pretty much lives in Orange county. Ha ha. BTW: I see plenty of the stuff in Aussie magazines too. Maybe more.
I think what Lennox was saying is the same thing I said about the forth or fifth entry. Anyone that thinks Tudor…the image is any less a pro and anymore a so called soul surfer than Slater or the rest that live off the industry…they are delusional. I am not judging that…it is what it is. I have posted many a positive thread about Tudor. I still think the reason for his popularity is because the average surfer can relate to that style of surfing way better than whats mostly on the Fuel channel. They have way more hope of surfing somewhat like Joel than like Slater.
Lynch: I told you those things were dogs Joel, why don’t you wake up and smell the coffee. It’s 2008 , not 1972.
These dogs are for sale in 2008. I almost bought the blue 7’0" until I found out it was actually 7’4" and wasn’t a Surftech.
Hey Mike, no parochial nationalistic pissing match going on here.
Gimme a few beers and I’ll bore the tits off ya waxing lyrical about Tom Curren, Malcolm Campbell, Russ Short, Windansea, Bob Simmons blah, blah,blah.
Anyway, I can feel here that Joel Tudor is some sort of sacred cow and I don’t want to offend anyones religious sensibilities.
If he was reading this I’m sure he would be laughing his arse off.
In the end, he’s the one getting paid to surf…this is just so much internet tomfoolery.
Steve
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Hey Mike, no parochial nationalistic pissing match going on here.
Gimme a few beers and I’ll bore the tits off ya waxing lyrical about Tom Curren, Malcolm Campbell, Russ Short, Windansea, Bob Simmons blah, blah,blah.
Anyway, I can feel here that Joel Tudor is some sort of sacred cow and I don’t want to offend anyones religious sensibilities.
If he was reading this I’m sure he would be laughing his arse off.
In the end, he’s the one getting paid to surf…this is just so much internet tomfoolery.
Steve
Love it. Sacred Cow…ha ha…there are so many in surfing.
to insult an ausie from the dark side ( bad karma)
may the force be withdrawn from you?
darker than dark