How does tail design/shape effect nose riding? Is a pin, rounded or square/squash tail better for nose riding? thanks
How does tail design/shape effect nose riding? Is a pin, rounded or > square/squash tail better for nose riding? thanks SQUARE MO’ BETTAH…ROUND MO’BETTAH FO CUTBACK. SORRY BOUT DA PIDGIN JUST GOT OF DA BRADSHAW WEBPAGE!!!
me thinks a rounded tail would be better for noseriding just because it will tend to hold in better than a square tail. square tail will make it turn a littler easier though. -steve
me thinks a rounded tail would be better for noseriding just because it > will tend to hold in better than a square tail. square tail will make it > turn a littler easier though. -steve Steve, is that the opposite of what Surfhungry said? -George
George - Sorry to butt in but the two previous posts do provide opposite advice(?!) Now what are ya gonna do? Hang in there - there are sure to be more suggestions. My two cents would be to go for a parallel outlined, wide square tail for nose riding. Rocker and such has been addressed in past threads but a relatively flat nose rocker and increased tail rocker seems to be acceptable to many.
George - Sorry to butt in but the two previous posts do provide opposite > advice(?!) Now what are ya gonna do? Hang in there - there are sure to be > more suggestions. My two cents would be to go for a parallel outlined, > wide square tail for nose riding. Rocker and such has been addressed in > past threads but a relatively flat nose rocker and increased tail rocker > seems to be acceptable to many. …by all means, John, butt in (same to the rest of you)… thanks
…by all means, John, butt in (same to the rest of you)… > thanks “Not even a beginner yet, re:board building” but I’ve alway’s thought that a pin/rounded pin, was better for turning/cut backs. Whereas a square tail, better tip time.
Re:tail design. I think I read somewhere that a tail less than 12" is considered a pin and over 12" a rounded pin. Is this right or was I dreaming? Thank You
Gene from Cooperfish surfboards say in the Cooperfish’s forum that square tail is the best for nose riding… Coque A.
yep, thats the opposite. its been my experience that round tails hold in better dont turn quite as well, but they are smoother. square tails turn easier because they release better (that means they dont hold in quite as well) i’m guessing its because the water breaks off the tail of the board abruptly, whereas the round tail or pin tail lets the water flow off of it easier. that’s why people you round and pintailed boards in steep hollow surf… they hold in better. i dont know which tail would noseride better, but since a round tail holds in better i would assume that it would be better for noseriding. that and a big ol’ fin. -steve>>> Steve, is that the opposite of what Surfhungry said? -George
i have both square and round tailed noseriders, and the truth is, there isnt much of a difference. i was just going by what i’ve been told about tail design. anyway, if you really want the tip time you need a longer, heaver, parallel and soft railed board with slightly upturned rails in the tail, a big fin, a little more tail rocker, less nose rocker, and a good concave. one of my boards is as follows. L=9’4, W=23, N=19, T=16, Thick=3.125, square tail (7inch block), concave is 3/16 deep, blended well, as goes back 43 inches. the board has 50-50 rails throughout, 40-60 (slightly upturned) in the last 12 inches of the tail or so. i have a 9.5inch squared off fin (old david nuuhiwa style). the bottom in slightly rolled in the tail going to flat and then to concave. it’s on green foam and glassed in 7.5 volan all around. on my next board i’d go with classic foam and 2 layers of 10oz on each side. but as far as noseriding and performance the board i just described is magic.
George - Sorry to butt in but the two previous posts do provide opposite > advice(?!) Now what are ya gonna do? Hang in there - there are sure to be > more suggestions. My two cents would be to go for a parallel outlined, > wide square tail for nose riding. Rocker and such has been addressed in > past threads but a relatively flat nose rocker and increased tail rocker > seems to be acceptable to many. THANK YOU…
yep, thats the opposite. its been my experience that round tails hold in > better dont turn quite as well, but they are smoother. square tails turn > easier because they release better (that means they dont hold in quite as > well) i’m guessing its because the water breaks off the tail of the board > abruptly, whereas the round tail or pin tail lets the water flow off of it > easier. that’s why people you round and pintailed boards in steep hollow > surf… they hold in better. i dont know which tail would noseride better, > but since a round tail holds in better i would assume that it would be > better for noseriding. that and a big ol’ fin. -steve ROUNDPINS due actually hold in better for the tailrider and are common on 6’6"s and up, but two cents from a guy who actually can ‘HANG TEN". The 6-8"square tail is more stable, completing the platform and the corner holds down better from rising out of the curl from your body counterweight, although my 16" wide roundpin tail whips a very mean reverse dropknee cutback I feel My 10’ Bing Nuuhiwa noserider squaretail Copy is superior in hanging ten(timewise). I can hang five on anything…Solid/armsdown/bentknees/toes-over ten is the crowdpleaser as good as sex and some!!!
…just to straighten things out… all i ever do is hang ten. along with a few hang heels, fives, helicopters and the like. you know… but two cents from a guy who actually can ‘HANG TEN". The 6-8"square tail is more stable, completing the platform and the corner holds down better from rising out of the curl from your body counterweight, although my 16" wide roundpin tail whips a very mean reverse dropknee cutback I feel My 10’ Bing Nuuhiwa noserider squaretail Copy is superior in hanging ten(timewise). I can hang five on anything…Solid/armsdown/bentknees/toes-over ten is the crowdpleaser as good as sex and some!!!