Always dig your pinlines Mako!
just got pledge floor finish with future will this work?
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I totally agree with with Mako224, And this is just my opinion, but when i search all i find are treads with people saying this topic has already been covered and never find just the a start to the point answer. when i started this site i thought people were gonna help me get my answers. so to people like Mako224, huckleberry, and kokuo. thank you so much for the help. I am going to try to use a brush and prob use tempera paint. Huckleberry what type of acyrlic do you use?
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Hey Skimmer, no prob. I use artists acrylic in the tube for the artwork (with a brush), and a good grade of acrylic interior house paint (with a foam weenie-roller) for the large areas.
It doesn't bother me when the same question comes up again and again, because I like reviewing what I know by going over it, and learning what I don't know by repetition, and each new thread on the same subject brings up nuances I might have overlooked before, and new voices that might not have contributed last time.
I read a lot here, and post a lot here, because this is my formal education and surf shop breakroom in one. I build wood boards mainly, but foam boards on occasion, I'm a semi-newbie, having completed less than ten boards from scratch, and I wouldn't be where I am or know what I know or be able to do what I do without swaylocks.
BTW, don't blow the archives off either, they are a great resource with tons of good info, use the archives and get to know them, spend time browsing past threads whenever possible. If you begin a question with "I have searched the archives and couldn't find the answer to this, my question is...." then you get a more positive response and it shows you're being thorough not just lazy if you know what I mean.
Its a real community here and lots of very experienced guys have mentored a lot of newbies and really given away trade secrets that have taken them years to master, and they deserve (and sometimes demand, LOL) respect for it. Welcome to Swaylocks, look forward to hearing lots from you, and seeing pics of your work.
only respect for everyone here, greatly appericate all the help and tips…
here is my first board 5’8 19 3/4 2 3/4…hope you can see it…looking to paint it up now…from what i have read and been told, i am going to mix some futures floor polish with tempera about 50/50 ratio, then use a brush…just looking to make the bottom 3/4 of the board red…think i will be ok?
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Nice board, and love the paddle too! ;)
Howzit sk1mm3r, Make sure you add some acrylic to it,it helps stableize the tempera since it can be a little dusty like and can smear a bit when you glass the board. Aloha,Kokua
Checked out your pic, the shape looks good for your first one. I think you should consider spackling before you paint. Even with well fused eps, there is always some bead gap and tear. (Pukas). Mix a little white with your spackle and it will keep the "unpainted" areas looking new. I mix mine with water and futures about like mayo before spreading it on. Lightly sand flush and you are set to go. Second, check your stringer height before you start any of this. I continually see high stringers on first timers boards which creates an uneven surface even before the board is glassed. An advantage of eps & spackle is: if you don't like your paint job, and you didn't put it on too thick, you can sand down to a surface that can be blown off and repainted again. One of the benifits of Sways is that when you log on, if you get a screen name of an expert on a certain process, like "atomized", you can look him up and read the threads he has commented on. He has some beautiful paint jobs on eps posted and is my go to guy if I run into problems. Eps & epoxy are not the easiest materials to start with. Good luck and take your time!!!
thanks for the tips surfteach, i will post a pic when glassed, get my supplies from a guy in Ocean city maryland. he gave me sanding resin by accident. so going back to get lam resin this week. I the guy i get it from is great. But does anybody know anywhere in the delaware and maryland area to get supplies??
You’re going to glass EPS with lam resin!?!?
You really should have read the link that I posted you a couple days ago.
@ Crisp can you post a link so i can read it?
http://www.swaylocks.com/resources/detail_page2.cgi?ID=1029
EPS requires Epoxy resin.
Polyurethane foam can use either Polyester resin, epoxy, resin X, …
Usually when someone says Lam Resin, they are talking about Polyester resin because Epoxy is just epoxy. There is not a separate resin for lamming and hotcoating.
If you use Polyester resin on EPS, the EPS will melt.
what if i spackle the board first will it still melt?
this is the blank i used
http://www.foamez.com/marko-foam-62h-short-board-blank-p-574.html
thanks for saving my board.
how much epoxy does it take to laminate a board?
For your 6’2", assuming single layer bottom and double layer top, as a beginner you’ll want minimum:
18 oz for the top (12 epoxy/6 hardner)
15 oz for the bottom (10 epoxy/5 hardner)
9 for each hotccoat (6 epoxy/3 hardner)
So that’s 51 oz total mixed material. Plus you’ll want some extra for touch ups, fin box install, gloss coat, etc.
So that’s 2 quarts total mixed material, minimum.
Don’t forget the additive F.
Just play it safe and get the 96oz kit from Greenlight.
Jamie, also my name. Dude thanks so much for help, that what i was thinking of getting and noticed they have best price on it. from what i have seen .
It will still melt.
I’ve glassed 3 Marko blanks now and I’ve only used Resin Research. I’ve been happy with the results.
Another option is to use another brand of expoxy like west systems or ???
A third option for you is to use Resin X. I’ve heard that Resin X takes some time to get wired and, the only person on Swaylocks that I can think of off the top of my head that uses Resin X is Afoaf. BammBamm is a Resin X pro but he doesn’t post here much… I’ve heard really good things about the results tho.
Brian at Greenlight is good people. - http://greenlightsurfsupply.com/
You can also order Resin Research directly from the source. - http://resinresearch.net/
FoamEZ has always been fantastic to deal with - http://foamez.com/
I usually order my glass from fiberglasssupply - http://fiberglasssupply.com/
These are all the suppliers that I’ve used.
I’m sure there are more that are good to work with.
Read Stingray’s step by step here. Print it out and study it down to the letter. This will get you through your first glass job. Make sure you get your laps smooth before doing the next glass layer…
Also, have you watched any videos of glassing yet?
Watch this one over and over http://vimeo.com/9063662
i really appericate all the help, I have a west marine here in rehoboth, are they the west systems brand? thank u again
Stick with the Resin Research Epoxy from Greenlight. Close to you. Shipping will be cheap. Support Brian and Co.