I was just wondering what the take is on adding a quad setup to a fish and once this is change is made can it really be called a fish. In my opinion the Fish should remain pure and only be designed with a twinfin setup anything else is a bastardization. Why try to change a good design just for the sake of “modernizing” every thing. To quad or not to quad that is the question?
Its your board, ride it however long, wide, thick, or however many fins you want. Who cares if it doesnt fit in the “box”??
Ever been watching a documentary about ocean creatures with Sharks, Whales and Dolphins with your kids and all you’re thinking is…"I like the look of those fins I wonder if FCS, Futures (insert favourite fin co name here) make a fin in this template?
I’m having the most fun ever riding a 4’2" bellyboard atm.
I used to hang out to surf the rare big days…now a 3-4’ day provides the same adrenalin rush on the gut slider.
Pays to keep the mind open.
Here we go again… Well, as long as we’re putting lables on things…
New rule: If you ride a four-finned version of a fish, you have to qualify it by saying, “quad fish” every time you refer to the board. You also have to say, “Modern Fish” if its really just a groveler with a swallow tail, and “Postmodern Fish” if it’s really just a shorter, wider, thicker performance shortboard.
“Retro Fish” is redundant, so the term should never be spoken. People who say “retro fish” should be laughed at, as they clearly know nothing about the design.
It’s kind of like saying a catfish is not a fish because it is actually a cat… At least I think that’s what I mean.
A “quad fish” is a pretty well-recognized animal. Surfboard design nomenclature gets taken a little too seriously sometimes. It can be kinda fun to take it seriously but check manufacturers’ descriptions of their boards and you’ll see they just use whatever words will make the design and its intent understood. That makes sense to me.
There just aren’t a lot of boards that are point-by-point copies of Steve Lis’ design from the early 70s…
Steve Lis Quad Fish circa 2009
6′9 x 14 1/2x 21 3/4 x 15 5/8
A 6’9 fish… is an oxymoron.
Good to see some feedback, guess a fish is a fish no matter how many fins it has, but I just love what a twin wooden keel fish feels like, ya add four fins and it changes the whole line, it just turns into another thruster like display of choppy hacks. I guess I just love a smooth approach. I posted this after hearing a line from Derek Hynd who found it “bloody criminal” to take the twinfins off and make it into just another modern like thruster, but I assume he doesn’t care much about fins anymore.
Nice board Uncle G. Is it ok to call it a Long Fish? I might try to make one of those. mike
Talked to a guy the other day who wanted an 8’0 fish
I talked him out of it…
Uncle G does your vision go haywire after looking at your board? I had a board colored similar to that one. I had to train myself not to look at it to bright and they would still say sorry didnt see you. Anyway so now depending on how many fins you have on your board makes it a fish,swallow.pin,rounded pin,diamond,squash,square.bat tail or just plain sawed off. I always thought it was a style of surfing choppy,smooth,high performance,straight down the line,tube riding and so forth. The way some one makes a board perform while riding it. The board will react to what the rider does. Surf any board the way you want to smooth, choppy or kook?
Whats a bonzai ? bonsai=japanese stunted ornamental plant banzai= a cheer for long life bonzai=stunted cheer?
It’s all good !!! hannya=jelouse female spirit
Hannya: “I always thought it was a style of surfing choppy,smooth,high
performance,straight down the line,tube riding and so forth. The way
some one makes a board perform while riding it. The board will react to
what the rider does. Surf any board the way you want to smooth, choppy
or kook?”
nah nah, every board has its own way of drawing a line nomatter how you surf. The dynamics of one setup to another makes it want to draw it differently. To change the tails, fins, rails, or foils ect. is to change the way the board will react and surf thus changing your line. However if you’re a kook you will still look like a kook, till ya loose your kook training wheels.
Bonza , I just got back from picking up a 6’0" Lis quad fish I was going to get the twinfin. But Steve changed my mind when I ordered it. One day I may order a new twinfin but I still have a thirty year old twinfin sitting next to three other now four other fishes. Somedays it makes me think…
What about toe and cant?
If they aren’t straight up and parrallel it’s NOT a fish!
Don’t even get started about rake!
=P
You had to go there!!! glad you didn’t go on about foils and birch ply!!!
YAH! sometimes.