Essential for all boardbuilders, handymen and 'woodbutchers'.
http://www.marisystem.com/ellipticat/moaning.htm
http://americanpaddleboard.blogspot.com/2009/11/moaning-chair.html
I never really thought about that old chair in the corner.. but yeah.
(chuckling) ahhh huh, something like that is mighty good to have, before you start throwing things, expensive things, irreplaceable things. 'Punishing' something for what I did wrong.
There are times when you...well, when I at least.... screw it up. And I dunno about anybody else, but I get angriest when there's nobody and nothing to blame but me. Hate to admit it, but I have a truly evil temper. 'Explosive' begins to describe it.
Right around then, you don't want to be around people, lest you bite their heads off. And trying to salvage whatever went wrong...not a great move right then either 'cos the temper is boiling and you are not thinking straight. Chances are, you'll make it a lot worse.
I know a guy who has a punching bag in his shop. Myself, I tend to get a cup of coffee and go for a walk until things get under control again and I can think straight. Or go inside and read for a while, science fiction is good and Terry Pratchett can really lighten it up nicely.
'Cos sitting there staring at whatever went wrong is kind of a spiral , y'know? . .
doc...
Have had a moaning chair in my shop for 30 odd years - actually been through a couple. Though, unlike Chappel, I like mine within sight of my work and screw-ups.
Nothing fancy. Found my last one at the dump, one of those folding boat/deck chairs with the replacable canvas seat and back (director’s chair?).
It’s a sanctuary for reflection on the screw-ups but also the triumphs when it all comes together as well or better than expected. That’s when I might grab some “Shaping Fluid” (comes in green bottles from Germany or Holland) and give myself a small pat on the back.
Pete
From that page:
“Above is Master Boardsmith, Roy Stewart”
Now, that’s funny!!!
Doc, I too can be a real Frankenstein, people who have really cared about me tell me that I scare them when I have had something go wrong and blow a valve, my ex wife once said to me, "do you think people think it is cool when you go bezerk ". I once snatched a 300 pound motorcycle off the ground and over my head and slammed in to the ground like it was a pillow. I never even felt it’s weight, I have tried my best to cool it as I get older, but on occasions the Hulk lurks inside. I think the perfectionist/artist might have something to do with it, but somethings have nothing to do with work or art.
Hey I got a moaning chair!
it seets two
Whitney and I have used it quite frequently as of late
it has medicine holders on each armrest
(chuckling) Ohhh yeah, one and the same, Jim, one and the same. Your family wouldn't be Scottish, would they?
'Ceptin' I did it with a flathead engine. Not a Harley flathead, a V-8. Didn't pick it up over my head, just flung it. Truly evil temper I have.
And yes, I've scared people, which is why I do the long walks in the night, away from anybody. When I did that thing with the V-8, come to think of it, nobody wanted to be around me for a while. Working offshore, it was actually good to have that available, 160 lb man versus about five tons of swinging scallop rake in a seaway. The Old Man used to say "Get mad at it" and I did.
But these days, if I tried to, say, throw something heavy or lift weights to burn it off...well, I can just see the aftermath; "Mister Bald Guy, your rotator cuffs are BOTH lunchmeat. Don't plan on doing anything with either arm for six months. "
Friend of mine...who I have a lot in common with, come to think of it, describes himself as a 'suppressed Type A personality'. Lots of anger in there, impatience and suffering fools not one bit gladly. And..I have some real trouble with Fool #1: me.
Getting older has helped, definitely. Along with having had to replace a few things I broke and having to pay the piper and all. And saying to myself "Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid,stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid,stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid" ...for as long as it took to fix it.
I am better now, though. A little. Something mechanical goes wrong on me, okay, I try to think of it as kinda like a chess game, where my little mechanical opponent has made a fiendishly clever move. Instead of throwing it at a wall. If somebody does something stupid, okay... they're an idiot, deal with them as such. If it's me that does something stupid...well, we knew that I am an idiot. And a suitable punishment for said idiocy is making myself fix it.
And if somebody does something intentionally malicious....welll........
....then it's still good to have that rage on tap.
doc...
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From that page:
"Above is Master Boardsmith, Roy Stewart"
Now, that's funny!!!
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Wayulll.... if said chair is used
"When the builder has done some damn fool thing...they must immediately retire to the moaning chair, until the period of moaning is complete, lest they turn the whole project into firewood."
Roy, uhmmmm...
...he must live in the freakin' thing....
doc...
Doc,
Was going to say, referring to Roy in the same space as Howard Chapelle (not Chappel) verges on sacrilege…
What’s next, he’s the Herreshoff of surf craft…?
Back on topic: Watch Jim Phillips on his shaping video…stylin’ in a leather recliner - Thought when I first saw it, “There’s the mother of all moaning chairs”.
Here’s mine:
(chuckling, after an enraging late afternoon.... blasted phones...... )
Hi Pete,
Right, mentioning Howard I. Chappelle ( noted naval architect/marine engineer and maritime historian - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_I._Chapelle and I highly reccommend his books*) with Roy....wayull, that's putting a swine in a pearl fishery.
That's kinda like putting http://www.tillerbooks.com/Notes_on_Chesapeake_Bay_Skipjacks.php alongside http://www.floatingneutrinos.com/son%20of%20town%20hall/Son%20of%20Town%20Hall.html
Heh, back on topic- Jim's no fool.
doc...
* for anybody curious
Howard I. Chappelles books include ( from my own collection)
Boatbuilding: A Complete Handbook of Wooden Boat Construction (1941) It's old school, traditional, and everything in it still works very well, thank you. An invaluable boatbuilder's companion and reference. Good data and some cute old-school tricks too.
The History of American Sailing Ships - A delight, for those interested in such. Goes back to the Colonial era through the early 20th century, details only a shipwright could really appreciate.
The History of the American Sailing Navy: The Ships and Their Development, W. W. Norton & Company, Inc. (1949) If you're interested in how the sailing warships of, say, 1774-1880 were built, this is the one. Tremendous detail.
The Search for Speed Under Sail: 1700-1855 (1967) - excellent study of clipper ships, their design and construction. More involved with the design and construction of 'em than, say, Carl Cutler's Greyhounds of the Sea, which is more a reference to all clipper ship passages.
Jim, I'm saving my stories about your temper for that "Jim Phillips Stories'' thread I'm threatening to start. We gotta get all your tales in one place.....
The ones you told on the Challenger thread were past hilarious and captured the times so well. And there's so many others.
No one ever told me about this!
I’ll be making one this weekend.
Balsa,
That chair suits you…you’re French…Louis XIV would be proud…
And you deserve it after that job on the Pipeliner…
Doc, if you’re checking, Chapelle’s “Boatbuilding” and “American Small Sailing Craft” are on the shelf but, I prefer Francis Herreshoff’s “Sensible Cruising Designs” for my pipe dreams…
Pete
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Balsa,
That chair suits you...you're French...Louis XIV would be proud...
And you deserve it after that job on the Pipeliner...
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I'm reminded of that Mel Brooks line: "It's good to be the king".
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Doc, if you're checking, Chapelle's "Boatbuilding" and "American Small Sailing Craft" are on the shelf but, I prefer Francis Herreshoff's "Sensible Cruising Designs" for my pipe dreams...
Pete
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Well now, my favorite of his is The Compleat Cruiser. Kind of the Chappele's Boatbuilding of small boat cruising, which suits me to a 'T'. Even has a really nice discussion of chowders. Man does not live by sailing alone, after all.
But....I have to say that I find the Herreshoffs ...well, did some work on one of the three-masters he designed, what was it, the Marco Polo: http://johanna2.com/ is similar.... a little quirky.
But my pipe dream - http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Sail/NewSister.html
And I own one, repairs and paint coming this spring ......now, if I can just find a small solid-fuel burning stove with an oven without breaking the bank ....
doc.....
Jim and Doc----Good to hear that I am not alone. I've been accused of tearing a kitchen apart in the middle of the night in a drunken rage. But in reality was rattlin' those pots and pans trying to find the Pyrex measuring cup which was buried somewhere in my Ex's kitchen klutter. Worked all day doing construction, came home and had dinner with the family and then proceeded to "nite-owl" a couple of glass jobs in my bakyard shop so the "old lady" could go out and burn the proceeds. I've got a moaning chair that I love dearly. Similar to Frazier's old mans' chair on the TV show "Frazier"(minus the duct tape). When I had my factory at the "chicken ranch" on the Central Coast of Calif. I could retreat to the "office" when needed. Gradually my screw-ups became fewer and farther between. Making my '40's rocker more of a place to think and plan rather than moan. Lowel
Well, that was timely. Using my router to take down the lip of a longboard box after installing. Went too deep and damaged the bamboo veneer. I'm sitting down now.
But where will you sit if you fuck up the chair?
All I can say …Amen, Jesus
i need one after today
very bummed. such a good day of surf
at least i have a good story of how it got dinged!