The "Ultimate custom 's" surfboards designed with,the "end users" in mind.

The Ultimate custom!. Designed! for surfers!, by surfers!


We hope this would be of interest to surfers, that want a choice in moving the designing and performance bar higher, for this great and ancient sport of Kings. Please contact us for more information on this revolution in the sport of surfing. Surfing has gone “Mechanical”, its a flying machine ,with spring loaded tails for more speed with out sacrificing its maneuverability, Now with the surfers ,all new ability ,in tuning their own boards for speed and more powerfull turns. Designed by surfers, for surfers.

TinklerTail: A Revolution In Surfboard Technology! Interview by Ray Bergman .

edited for more design clarity by SSXSco.for this post.

Cool concept, . That’s the initial impression one gets when first seeing the Tinkler Tail. Bob Tinkler a Canadian/New Zealander, first started working on perfecting flex in stand up shortboards after living with George Greenough and Bob McTavish in 1967. Since then, he has taken it a step further and this summer, re-introduced the world to the concept of Flex-tail surfing. SurfingTheMag.com sat down with Bob in order to see exactly what he was raving about.

SURFING: What is the basic concept of this double tailed board?

Bob Tinkler: Well the double tail is basically a false bottom. The deck is part of the stiff molded board and when you apply pressure during your turn, the flexing tail will move from its straight speed line rocker into various curves. It actually solves the huge, age old problem,of designers/shapers, of how do you getting both speed “and” manuverability, in the one surfboard shape, that has the needed speed with a straight tail rocker and also makes turning easier. Now the TinklerTail has solved this design dilemma with its adjusting tail rocker and with its springs in there, you can actually interchange them to ‘load up’ the tails flex compression in order to get more thrust out of your turns.

Does it work specifically with any type of board? For instance; a shortboard or a longboard?

Reinventing the surfboard.

A Revolution, using the Sciance of Flex

Anybody can use it. It’s very user-friendly. You can use it on nose-riding longboards to guns ,toe-ins and high-performance shortboards.

So what is the basic premise of this tail?

With it, the surfer can fine-tune his or her surfboard in the water for that particular surf session. Depending on different factors such as body weight and wave power and conditions, the surfer can swap out the springs for higher or lower tension springs that can alter the performance of the board.

Basically this sounds like a potential innovation to the surf industry not unlike the fin systems that have become an industry standard over the past 10 years or so.

Exactly.It’s like the mountain bike of surfboards. And the boards are not exclusive to one kind of fin system either - we work with almost all of them.

The sample board that you have here is a Surftech molded board. Is that the only way they are available or are they possible to do with your standard foam and fiberglass boards as well?

The original design was always centered on mass production to make it cheaper, lighter and durable for the customer and it continues to be that way. With the flexible tail, you can now make those stiff epoxy boards flexible and easier to use. It improves what a molded board was lacking ,for the performance minded surfers

Is the board re-enforced in order to make that split tail section stronger?

Yes. There is carbon fiber and its specialized tail construction in there and there is also a tether in the design to prevent the tail from moving back in the wrong direction.

Is it easy to adjust in the water?

Yes, it’s designed so that you can adjust all three tail control regulators and springs to suit the current surf conditions. If you are doing a lot of powerful turns on bigger waves, it can be dialed up for more torsional resistance. And if you are just speeding down the line, it can be adjusted for less torsional resistance with your choice of a more softer spring compression.

When will boards with this design be available to the general public?

We are working very hard to get this into a molded board manufacturers production line, for the surfers next summer. So by next year, you should be able to get one. It’s the first unique surfboard ,designed for the surfers with a totaly new end user concept, for a truly first, off-the-rack, custom tunable surfboards.

Does the split tail in the back cause a any water drag?

No. The split tail has no negligible effect on smooth water-flow whatsoever. There is no increased drag at all.It actually decreases drag and increases the boards drive through a “G” turn. And when you go into the turn with this design, the two decks become one and compress together. Therefore causing no drag there either.

If our viewers want to learn more about the TinklerTail, where can they get more info?

They can soon go to our website for its R&D history. at: www.SurfSyndicate.com

“It’s like the mountain bike of surfboards.”

Except for many people prefer a nice old steel frame, rigid fork, and single speed instead of a 5,000 dollar carbon titanium triple pivot point dual suspension 32 speed commando bike.

If you think this new TinklerTail FlexTech is spam? I guess you fit the category of " ignorance is bliss " nonTech group ,when it comes to understanding surfboard design and performance or how it moves forward inspite of ,the Bliss you and some others seem to prefer. all the best. The surfboards of the past were fun ,but as a designer I wouldn’t like to live there. FYI ,“The future is in front of you ! not behind you”. Just look down and see God’s design ,that’s why your feet face forward.

Brett , I have not seen any kids riding Grand dads steel wheeled , framed bikes . Where do you live??? exactly. The past was fun but as a board designer ,I for one woud not like to live there!!!

My home is Newport Beach, as my profile says. I divide my time between Newport and Los Angeles where I am working towards a communication degree and a music recording degree. There relevance of that will become clear below.

First, I know plenty people who ride steel bikes (myself included) and nothing about them makes them Grandads (although I do love vintage bikes). I ride a 2005 steel framed 29" wheel single speed (29" wheels are very progressive in mountain biking, there are almost no people riding them currently). I used to ride full suspension cross country bikes, but got tired of all the parts I had to care for. I now only worry about my chain because I have a single speed. Oh yeah, it is completely rigid also. I like the challenges it provides me. I also feel more connected to whatever surface I am riding on.

As far as surfboards, I am sure there is a place for designs like this. I was just pointing out that sometimes it is more about searching for a feeling that allows you to have the most possible fun that really matters.

Now, in regards to why my recording degree matters. With alot of music recording going to strictly digital, there is of course a backlash of those who prefer analog. I, for one, also prefer analog. Go listen to a vinyl album, then the same thing on CD. There is a difference between analog and digital, mostly the fact that no matter how high the sampling rate of digital, it still misses a certain portion of the soundwaves. If you would like a more technical and in depth explanation on the physical differences that actually make analog 'sound" better, just tell me, I would be happy to provide one. Progress is not always, in total, providing us with something better.

Let me be clear, I was not intending to say I didn’t think it was a cool design, only that it is probably not ultimate for everyone. I don’t agree with the spam post, but whatever.

Re: Rockbottom.

Iterlectualy speaking have you got any thing to say about surfboard designs? or is this spam post the sum total And the Rockbottom of your intellectual prowess? , for this subject of advanced custom flextail design being discussed here??

I am not trying to be mean to you RB I was just wondering .

Re: Spam accusations…

I believe that most of us here at Swaylock’s appreciate innovation…

You are obviously a passionate innovator, congratulations…

HOWEVER

The way you re-post the same stuff, while trying to add bits of new information without clearly editing out repetitive things is sure to get you labeled a SPAMMER…

My suggestion is to take some time, and post clearly and without repetition…

IS THAT SPMALA ANDERSON ? ITS NICE YOU WANT TO POST A PHOTO OF YOUR WIFE ON SWAYLOCKS ,SHE IS A SWEETY YOU REALLY SCORD MATE. ALL THE BEST TO YOU AND YOURS .

SORRY PAUL SEAMS LIKE THE SAME QUESTIONS KEEP GETTING ASKED AND ALL I HAVE IS THE SAME FLEXTECH ANSWERS FOR THEM 4+4=8 EVERY TIME. BUT A DIFFERENT DESIGN FLEXTECH QUESTION WILL GET A DIFFERENT FLEXTECH ANSWER FROM ME . THANKS FOR THE GOOD ADVICE . THE PETTY POSTS ARE DISAPOINTING FOR SURE AND I FOR ONE WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO FLEXTECH AND WHAT IT WILL MEAN FOR SURFING IN ITS FUTURE FOR THE SPORT.




Three questions. 1) How much money do they sell for? 2) Do you have any pictures newer than 20 years old of someone riding one? Pictures of somebody at the beach holding one doesn’t really give me the best feel for the performance of the board. 3) Can you explain your design solution that prevents damage from the repetitive motion of the tail hitting it’s flex stop?

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There She is SPMala Anderson look after her Rockbottom she is priceless mate.

Your just a click away from stepping into the future. ScottC in answer to your great design question as this thread on flex design Q&A implies .yours is the only one that has been asked with out hostilitys . SO please go to www.SurfSyndicate.com and see one in action at Rocky Point Hawaii north shore 2006 .

thanks for your questions. 1. We are getting a stable of shapers and Quiver of board shapes together now.

2. The cost benefits are an interesting Question and I am glad you asked it. To answer it, let me give you a hypothetical. Say you buy 3-4 custom state of the art boards and break 3-4 of them in a year. As some surfer’s do! With heavy use in good surf conditions, at say $ 500.00 + that will cost you, the surfer $ 2000.00 + per year to surf and then still need a board to surf at the end of the year. Ok that’s the worst case. But when you look at what the Custom TTailed surfboards will be made of, as a molded construction hi-tech with stronger lighter materials and will surf infinitely longer and better and stay tuned for its full life span and still have a resale value. Like a Volvo in a year of use, that’s ready for you to sell or trade in on a new model. At under $ 1,000.00 price tag of your hi-tech molded custom TTail and you will still have a surfboard to surf or sell. By simply purchasing a custom TTail . If you do the math we just saved you! the surfer. $1000.00 bucks + its trade in value and you have had a years worth of surfing on the hottest ride possible. A real Custom tunable state of the arte surfboard ,shaped by the best shapers in the world ,identical to the shape they deem their MAGIC BOARD and put their name and experience with their R&D that went into it, on the line for you in perfect copies of their original designed Quiver recommendation.

So Thanks for the opportunity to answer this great question for you. As you can see the Custom TTG4 turns out to be the most cost effective Custom surfboard perches on the market.

  1. We are talking to manufactures as we speak and you will have the opportunity to buy one in the near future. All good things take time and the time will be worth it. Take Care and stay Tuned to the key of G… power, it’s coming. Skip and the INTHENO shapers are stoked on the new TTG4 design in there own shapes for their molded hi-tech customers www.SurfSyndicate.com The Tinklertail is designed with years of R&D structural engineering that solves durability questions.
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Three questions. 1) How much money do they sell for? 2) Do you have any pictures newer than 20 years old of someone riding one? Pictures of somebody at the beach holding one doesn’t really give me the best feel for the performance of the board. 3) Can you explain your design solution that prevents damage from the repetitive motion of the tail hitting it’s flex stop?

www.SurfSyndicat.com check the SS Forum for answers to some of your questions re; cost etc.

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Three questions. 1) How much money do they sell for? 2) Do you have any pictures newer than 20 years old of someone riding one? Pictures of somebody at the beach holding one doesn’t really give me the best feel for the performance of the board. 3) Can you explain your design solution that prevents damage from the repetitive motion of the tail hitting it’s flex stop?

thanks for your questions. 1. We are getting a stable of shapers and Quiver of board shapes together now.

2. The cost benefits are an interesting Question and I am glad you asked it. To answer it, let me give you a hypothetical. Say you buy 3-4 custom state of the art boards and break 3-4 of them in a year. As some surfer’s do! With heavy use in good surf conditions, at say $ 500.00 + that will cost you, the surfer $ 2000.00 + per year to surf and then still need a board to surf at the end of the year. Ok that’s the worst case. But when you look at what the Custom TTailed surfboards will be made of, as a molded construction hi-tech with stronger lighter materials and will surf infinitely longer and better and stay tuned for its full life span and still have a resale value. Like a Volvo in a year of use, that’s ready for you to sell or trade in on a new model. At under $ 1,000.00 price tag of your hi-tech molded custom TTail and you will still have a surfboard to surf or sell. By simply purchasing a custom TTail . If you do the math we just saved you! the surfer. $1000.00 bucks + its trade in value and you have had a years worth of surfing on the hottest ride possible. A real Custom tunable state of the arte surfboard ,shaped by the best shapers in the world ,identical to the shape they deem their MAGIC BOARD and put their name and experience with their R&D that went into it, on the line for you in perfect copies of their original designed Quiver recommendation.

So Thanks for the opportunity to answer this great question for you. As you can see the Custom TTG4 turns out to be the most cost effective Custom surfboard perches on the market.

  1. We are talking to manufactures as we speak and you will have the opportunity to buy one in the near future. All good things take time and the time will be worth it. Take Care and stay Tuned to the key of G… power, it’s coming. Skip and the INTHENO shapers are stoked on the new TTG4 design in there own shapes for their molded hi-tech customers www.SurfSyndicate.com