thoughts on my first hull?

just got me hull back from TVS fibercraft…i had it glassed there because i just dont have the time or the space to glass it meself…

im a little upset because i didnt realize the width of the thing 21 inches!!!

the fin is 11 inches forward …i tend to go with the flow and not pull out the measuring devices…just eyes i pull out my tape enough at work

the length is 6’4…

it was inspired from liddle

all honest opnions greatly appreated,it will surf, how well? is the question

whatdeya think …sorry the photos are unclear…i dont have resizing tools

thanks tj

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i’m new to hulls myself - but the fact that you jumped in and shaped one is great. pics are small - but i notice pulled nose. I do see up rails – and the fin looks pretty cool.

let us know how it rides. ever ride a hull before?

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never mind …i have the hardest time with this

holy FAULTY CODING, batman…

Radical!

took the board out yeaterday on some mushy back offs

the board seems so hard to surf…for a 6’4 it seemed to be able to surf a non breaking wave…i was one of the few that made it to the faster inside section …

then i surfed it last night too …hated it…i fell of the back on all my waves

like the board squirted out from under my feet with exceleration…and rail to rail was out of control fast.probably to much to handle because of the amount of hull in the hull…

after i came out of the water i got a lot of weird looks and people were talking quietly amungst themself …probably about the strang spacecraft i was carry’n and the kook that was tring to surf it …since this was the first time ive surfed in a month the session really blew…not to mention it was really cold ,super woody (lots of debris in the water) and mega current…

all in all i really need to surf more and this board is out of hand…too extream

it can be surfed ,how well by me" is another story

thnks tj

I’m pretty new to hulls, having gotten mine only in August. however the best bit of advice i’ve heard is to ride nothing but the hull for ‘at least seven sessions’.

my advice is this: just get on the wave and relax. let it all come to you.

re you falling off the back - board squirtin out from under you. apparently hull rule #1 is to keep yr back foot off the tail. (however in very small waves my board worked ok that way - foot right on top of the fine, which is still 13-14" up from tail )

next thing to keep in mind is that you built the hull- and perhaps ( perhaps) the subtle refinements that go into a hull, well you just don’t have the experience to have shaped them in? Still, you never know, perhaps you did - and it just takes getting used to.

At first i got a little frustrated and was wondering why i was playin on the hull when i could have been having a ball on my fish or mat, but it sneaks up on you. and if you are patient, it will happen. it did for most other hull types, of which i now consider myself.

…oh, and the peeps laughin and talking about the weird thing yr riding - don’t sweat it – it’s one of the best things to riding alternative shapes/surfcraft. when you get it dialed, then same peeps will take notice… adn think twice before trying to drop in.

“best bit of advice i’ve heard is to ride nothing but the hull for 'at least seven sessions.”

Try wearing a bicycle helmet and a dust mask for three of those sessions… I have heard that this helps with the learning curve enormously and also will help make up for any of those subtleties that you may have missed.

wow T.J.,

stumbling through the internet… came across this…

glad its finished.

it looks really shredable.

You’ll get it in no time.

Just “glossed” my board… I must head up there sometime soon and give you your video. Thank you.

I heard it was your birthday?

Happy Happy.

-Emily

I think you are in uncharted waters…all the hooha written about “hulls” may not apply to your board because of the outline you’ve used. I would stay off the tail though, spin city. Keep at it and it might come around. If it never really works, grind off the fin and put a 10-inch adjustable box and try an adjustable fin similar to the one you glassed on. Move the fin around over a few sessions. I guarantee there will be a fin location that really turns your board on (I think the present fin may be too far up). You can try other fins too; I’m thinking a Lexan/Horan star fin would work really well.

Nice job on the board! Like Matt says, “Radical!”

lee V …spin city is right…yea i may move it back but im going to put more time on it …thanks for your imput …so its not a hull…good…

this board crys warm water and lots of time …thanks for your imput lee V it meens alot…

emily…yea get up here bring farron we will get some dungee’s …its good right now…cove is all time …

pics of swayboard comming soon its in my posession…

Emily - we at Swaylocks want to encourage you to post more. I think Rachel thinks she is the only female shaper here…

“…so its not a hull…”

Yes it’s a “hull”. You’ve just put the “hull” on a very different outline than other people. The foil and rocker are very Greenough-like. Don’t give up on it.

Just weighing in way behind LeeV in terms of experience/knowledge but have ridden a number of hulls and yes oh yes fin and fin placement changes, even small ones will make it a different board. If you do decide on modifying first thing I would do is knock off the fin and instal a longish box. Then you have lots of room for easy changes and experiments. Just moving the same fin 1/8-1/4 inch can make huge difference and if you have box you can go back and forth between positions to make sure it “wasn’t just me” that time. Can go in quick and change fins and back out immediately in same surf conditions etc.

Don’t worry, some boards have a much longer learning curve than others, I feel that more than a year after shaping my first fish I’m only recently learning how to properly surf one. Hulls have a reputation for being a challenging design, don’t give up on it yet! At least you mucked in and did it yourself, which is more than about 85% of the surfing population!

My daughter has a professional copy of a Walden compact disc. I copied that board and made a 6’ 11". It worked good for me. I copied the copy and made a 6’5". The 6’5" did not work at first but I stayed with it and now it is my favorite board in waves 2-4 feet. Moved the center fin all the way forward and did not like the ride. Lots of experimenting to do…

I look things different now.

That board will work ,consider the fin box…maybe side fins too. I know Hulls have the fin way forward but maybe this board needs the fin more back…

I don’t know…Just keep surfing!

Ray