time between bottom and top lamination

Hello friends,

Quick question. I just bottom laminated a longboard I have been working on. I won’t be able to top lam it until Friday afternoon. It’s about 10pm on the east coast now and I have to be in South Jersey for work tomorrow and won’t be back in Phily till very late.

Is it horrble that there will be such a lag of time between bottom and top glassing times. I sure hope not.

If so, is there anything I can do to save it becase the bottom lam came out perfecct.

-s

sullivan surfboards

“keep calm and surf on”

It will be fine - just rough sand around your laps and go for it. :slight_smile:

Hi.

The only negative thing that can happen is your deck getting dirty, so you have to be pretty sure to cover it up nicely.

Once you come back to laminate the deck, check it out and see if its clean before getting your work done. If you have little particles on your foam just grab a tape and take them off without placing your fingers in it.

 

 

 

  Theory is best if the sequence is timed with just curing the previous coat.

  However, some guys rub styrene on the laps of the cured glass before glassing the other side.

  I've actually glassed a bottom almost a full year after glassing the top, with no apparent harmed effects.  The board lasted fine, no problems.

i don’t like it tacky because dry cloth sticks to it and if you adjust it, the weave gets all messed up…id think that would be the case with rubbing styrene on it.

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Hello friends,

Quick question. I just bottom laminated a longboard I have been working on. I won't be able to top lam it until Friday afternoon. It's about 10pm on the east coast now and I have to be in South Jersey for work tomorrow and won't be back in Phily till very late.

Is it horrble that there will be such a lag of time between bottom and top glassing times. I sure hope not.

If so, is there anything I can do to save it becase the bottom lam came out perfecct.

-s

sullivan surfboards

"keep calm and surf on"

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Hello Tairygreen,,,,

small details matter.....you covered location but skipped true temp....you got some great POLY comments....but failed to let the world know if you are glassing with epoxy or poly....good answers for poly...not good for epoxy........

No matter what resin system you are using.....1/2 finished surfboards invite problems....Make a plan...follow through....Lam it and hot coat it as fast as the resin will let you...or deal with problems..........later.....

 

Thanks for all the input everyone. I was working with Expoy anyhow, but I was able to lam it last night.

I will be hot coating today and it looks as though everything is going to be alright. Gunna need alittle sanding before hte hot coat though. 

Still, its looking good for only glassing a couples boards in ther past

-s

sullivan surfboards

"keep calm and surf on"

Hey guys,

So after a good sanding, I have this outcome. those are the bottom lapsunder the top lam, I sanded them down smooth beforethe top lam but they till seemto be pretty aparent. I wasthinking about laminating the top again with 4oz cloth. The top layer already has to 6oz on it. Will that make it worse? Will the hot coat help dul those laps. 

Also I laminated with Expoxy. 

Any suggestions on how to fix it?

Thank you guys.

-s

sullivan surfboards

"keep calm and surf on"

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  Brush the styrene on after laying the cloth, then you only wet and tuck at the styrene area.

  I'd fill a slurry of epoxy/microballoons and fill feather.  But your board needs more than one layer of glass on the top, so adding a 4 is OK.

  Next board, try to cut the cloth cleaner and much smaller lap.  maybe about 2" is max.

ya

that lap looks weak

sloppy,,,,

sorry

those laps shoulda been ground down more

Don’t know about epoxy but with poly, I sometimes baste the foam near th lap with resin…not thick at all, just enough for the foam to get wetted by the resin. Then I let cure and grind the lap. this makes the foam hard so if I accidentally knick it, it won’t gouge a big hole in the foam.

then again, I don’t know if this’ll be a good technique with epoxy, and I don’t know what kind of core you used.

Hey everyone,

Thanks a milion for the input. This is only my second glass job and lets just say the first is being used and my test subjuect for this board.

The laps on this one were terrible, I agree. At the time of those pics above, there was a 6oz layer on the bottom and two 6 oz. layers on the deck. Yesterday morning I took the orbital to the deck with some 80 grit and really sanded down those risen laps as flush as possible. Then I glassed again on the deck with a 4 oz. layer. 

I think it worked out for the best. It make a world of difference. I will prob start hot coating today.

Here are a few pics of what it looks like this morning after a little sanding.

Also, astevens, I really dig your approach of hardening the foam. I’m definately going for that next time.

-s

Sullivan surfboards

“keep calm and surf on”


Hi tairy green.

Ive only made a few boards so have no where near the experience of these other guys, but have probably recently had the same problems as you. My first couple of boards came out with that un-even lapline showing on the deck, really white (from oversanding the glass) and as i tried to sand it back it shaved areas off the exposed foam and left low spots on the deck, im guessing that you are having similar problems? This happened to me as i was free lapping, but then discovered cut-laping and it eliminated the problem. You can find loads of info on cut-laping on here. Your most recent pictures looks like you have sorted out those lap lines anyway. Hope this helps a bit.