to the surf mat riders ....

Not sure about Teahupoo but up to a point at least, with good technique and big legs and good flippers you can get in very early and set up before it gets crazy. There is a sequence on inflatabledreams that starts here

http://groups.msn.com/InflateAbleDreamSpeed/shoebox.msnw?Page=4 and continues on next page of mattitude (James Sowell) riding meaty Wedge in Newport Beach, CA that show this. A lot depends on variables of how the wave forms up early but with enough skill, muscle and huevos it obviously can be done!

Notice in the wedge photos how i do not actually ever take a drop though :slight_smile:

I am not saying it cant be done but i still do not feel confident enough to paddle out at say Big Rock.

i am gradually learning how to deal with heavier drops but the peak at wedge is still basicly off limits to me.

shark island has a way to get in easy and run towards the end bowl .

i do feel that there is a way posibly almost bodysurfing in to take the drop then shuffling the mat up under you to get going.

had good luck with this tech at aliso shorbreak doing eye spys with kids on boogies.

Soul

Ben,

Check out this old thread: “Riding swells on a magic towel”

http://www.swaylocks.com/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=253107;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;guest=8578627

All kinds of hollow waves have been (and are) surfed on mats. The Newport Wedge, Shark Island, Sandspit, etc. Pipe has been ridden in years past by Bud Browne and George Greenough, among others. But for most experienced mat surfers, the over-crowding of quality breaks is more of a serious issue than how critical the waves might be.

As for the life of a surf mat when used in extremely hollow and powerful waves… remember that all manner of surfcraft are frequently damaged and/or broken in those conditions. A direct hit by a massive lip can destroy any surfcraft… and sometimes their riders.

How well a mat can hold in on a steep hollow wall? That’s like asking if an expensive musical instrument can play a complex song. We all know the quality of sounds created are largely dependent on the skill of the musician.

The largest, deepest, longest tube ride ever filmed (from the inside out wearing 20+ lbs. of camera gear) was documented over 30 years ago by George Greenough surfing on a $20.00 discount store rubber and canvas air mat.

For reference: The Surfer’s Journal, “The Tube” by George Greenough, Volume 13 Number 4 - Fall 2004. Also, George Greenough’s final tube ride sequence (“Echoes”) in Alby Falzon’s film, “Crystal Voyager” (1973).

“For reference: The Surfer’s Journal, “The Tube” by George Greenough, Volume 13 Number 4 - Fall 2004.”

… any chance of scanning or quoting it , please Dale ?

I’d always read that “echoes” was filmed from George’s spoon kneeboard …

cheers

ben

Ben,

Surf mats can often get to the trough faster than the lip during late take-offs in hollow waves, allowing a long bottom turn around the initial section, and back up the

face.

Sequence taken from QuickTime flic by Harold Ward of George Greenough, February 2006:

Hey i think i got it in Acrobat (pdf) format - shoots me a PM and gimme yr email. you better have capacity, cuz it’s about 8 or color pages.

Nix on that - i dont’ got “The Tube”, rather i have “Inflateable Dreams” article. well if you still want it, lemme know.

…thanks mate , that’s very kind of you !

I sent you a ‘p.m.’ , with ‘plan B’ , as I don’t think my email could do it , unfortunately !

…is there ANY way of posting it on this thread , somehow , I wonder ? [ as I’m sure there are also others here who would not have seen EITHER of the articles mentioned …]

cheers , "9N " !

ben

chipster – how bout plan “C”. Check yr PMs.

Hi Ben…

http://freeshare.us/127fs145613.jpg

http://freeshare.us/127fs1456764.jpg

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http://www.comteche.com/free-image-hosting/images/O0S70295.pdf

http://www.comteche.com/free-image-hosting/images/U8870424.pdf

http://www.comteche.com/free-image-hosting/images/Gos70467.pdf

http://www.comteche.com/free-image-hosting/images/7kQ70509.pdf

Dale ,

you are a LEGEND , mate !

thanks very very much for that !

I will be sure to read all of that !

you guys are sooo helpful , thanks !

you made my day !

cheers

ben

…do many of you guys sit on your mats while waiting for waves , to get a clearer view of approaching sets ?

if so , how well do they float you above the water?

also , today eno and I were mucking around with backward takeoffs fun fun fun

[bit dangerous though , maybe , as you can go head first into what are at present about 6" deep sandbanks …after riding one wave in , eno bogged his mat while trying to paddle back out . Now i see why mats don’t have fins , and also why i didn’t ride the prawn with the curved fins today !]

also …today , flippers were DEFINATELY needed ! Ian got ALL the waves [that I missed] today …

cheers

ben

chip- i’ve ridden my mat in some real shallow stuff. in this one place i surf, you walk down the beach past some shallow reefs that alway catch the eye - sometimes they break nice, but anyone would right away see how shallow and move on. so one day coming bakc from the spot i regularly surfed - i had my mat - i watched is for a while, still plenty shallow with boils all over – but i went out and had a blast for about a halfhour until the tide dried it up. like my own wave. i’d just come from surfing with a mob down the beach.

kinda opens up a whole new frontier of uncrowded surf

My buddy brought back one of those red spider mats from Australia, ride it occaisonally. Super fun down at cylinders by the wedge.

Quote:
Just had a surf during the Charger game with my buddy Ken he was riding his solomonson mat and got the longest barrel on this clean little wave could hear the boys on the beach hooting. Its a trip watching him tune it after a wave by letting a little air out. Those things are so bitchin'

That afternoon… Pinliner outside, Kendog inside:

Photos courtesy Corey M. Senese http://www.surfshot.com/

Quote:

"…do many of you guys sit on your mats while waiting for waves , to get a clearer view of approaching sets ?

if so , how well do they float you above the water ? …"

Dale, word is, either this is a picture of you, or taken by you. care to enlighten a little?

also

Know anything about this movie?

and lastly, a little trim speed as captured by Larry ‘Flame’ Moore Version 2 (retooled a bit by peterc)



Hi Jamie -

Maybe Dale won’t mind if I jump in… I think that is indeed him riding one of his insane tri-plane belly boards. The description in link below alludes to a photo of him riding one. I think that may be the photo used on his old website homepage.

http://www.swaylocks.com/resources/detail_page.cgi?ID=228

Looked at a mat today. It was a redback, 140cm, with 2 handles on the front. Im definately gunna get one, for the days when i take the family to the beach. When im surfing, my wife and ( in the future ) daughter can use it. That way, if the surfs crap, the whole family can still have fun. For 30 bucks, it should be worth trying anyway. They also had a bali mat!!, which had a square nose.

beerfan ,

don’t drink for a day , use the money saved plus an extra $5 and get the bali model …you’ll be happy you did [“do yourself a favour”]

chipfish receives no financial endorsement from china for writing this ,

however any donations of redbacks gladly accepted [hicksy don’t post me any live ones though , please]

n.b. red back is also a west aussie beer, strangely enough …

ben