Cool stuff.
My friends @ US Blanks call those stringers that end on the corners of the tail block Hot Curls.
G&S makes em’ on a longboard model.
By the way,
I first did my first split, curved stringers 5 years ago.
Not saying I did it first though.
Glad to see others thinking the same.
Carry on.
IMO bringing the split stringer out to the rails and placement are what create performance unique to Mr. Snyder’s design.
‘‘barry barry’’
whilst i have no personal problem with you.
i think it is time you joined the surf shop crew in exile
cheers huie
OK Northshore…you disagree with Barry…thats OK…Barry seems to be OK with that too…So talk is cheap. Post up some of your stuff…can you do that…What are you doing with your surfboards to make them better…flex here and stiff there? You are calling BS so post up some boards…prove your point… Do you build surfboards?
I am backyard. Barry has helped me online and offline…Thanks for all your help Barry…
Stingray
Barry - have you seen the DMS carbon inlays “engineered to create a lively performance surfboard with positive flex properties.” The video shows the rider discussing the board having “a spring to it” and “seemed to have a different flex”. I found it interesting, and while a bit different from your torsion flex stringer (their board is stringerless), clearly related in concept.
2015 Fun Board Test: DMS from Tracks Magazine on Vimeo.
Yeah, seen 'em.
That is just in the skin.
Can’t really change the way the board flexes as there is not enough carbon there to alter the flex.
My system is based off torsional flex in relation towhere the rear foot is placed.
That version is much easier than gluing curved stringers.
I am glad that flex and surfboard has become a topic of interest though.
Interesting. Have never used carbon, so didn’t realize that, I thought they were using the carbon as a stiffener to try for a comparable flex pattern.
Carbone is far stiffer than wood or glass, a uni carbon far from neutral fiber will noticeably increase tensil stiffness but not so much compress stiffness.
Nothing has the stored energy like a vertical stringer.
No spring back like I an trying to achieve.
If they used more carbon, maybe.
I suspect your stirnger setup has some unique torsional properties Barry. I like your idea/design.
But I believe there are some interesting flex possibilities without stringers. However, I do not mean thin carbon strips placed on the outer surface of a surfboard, including inlays a few millimeters thick.
Think leaf springs/shocks. I assume this would be in the category of what oneula et. al. call springers.
I think there is a lot of experimenting left to do with surfboard flex. Still many mouse traps left to build and improve.
I think there are some unexplored designs concepts that I guess would fall into what could be considered “springers.” Not so much the traditional concept though.
I wish more people would a least give the parabolic stringer a try.
So much spring outta the turn.
The rail bends into the turn, then snaps back to its original curve.
I kind of look at it compared to the Dragster theory.
Stiff with no suspention to for power direct to the ground.
The wrong flex robs forward drive.
Thin HPSB’s with thin, sensitive rails are flopping and flexing robbing the board of forward projection.
Stiffening the rail gives added thrust.
Try one.
Better yet, make one.
The linear flex is taken from the center and moved out to the rails.
My stringer design is a bit of both with the added propultion of the stored energy of Torsion.
http://www.barrysnyderdesigns.com/torsional-propulsion–torsion-drive-stringers.html
I’ll surface from the depths to feed.
“Nothing has the stored energy like a vertical stringer.”
So true, so why all the reverse hype
Ah, the “brainy” blank?
I’m with you, DIY…
“I wish more people would at least give the parabolic stringer a try.”
Yeah, prior to composite stringers.
Got some good results, only not
well, earthshaking,
I’m eyeballin’ your stuff “Sonny”!
“Thin HPSB’s with thin, sensitive rails are flopping and flexing robbing the board of forward projection.”
May I remind you that
I am a walking fossil!
Although, Yater was “up North”, Dora was fond of one of Rennies…
The first spoon I saw was there at Malibu.
We should all know the “Bigler at Rincon” episode.
And the “Flex Era” was on…
Harbor “Cheater” (wedge)
Rick “Improviser” (wedge)
Con “Bigler Classic” (bitchen foam wedge)
(almost sure I missed some wedges, forgive me SammyA)
Also I different approach was the Surfboards Hawaii Model A.
FLEX, in the “dark ages”, here is an old man’s memory
You paddle up (knee) next to your buddy on a cold morning
Grab the rails and start pumping
Soon the nose is slapping water all over ‘em!
Enough of the recollections.
Re did the Spoon some years back, fun and so retro.
“Stiffening the rail gives added thrust.”
Exactly where my head is at.
Thanks for letting me rant and share…
Bradda Barry!!!
Advance the Art of HAND Crafted.
You inspired this effort,
Surf has been PUSS so its not been wet yet, bummer…
3mm cedar single layer veneers.
You guys are kill in’ me. Is Megan Kelly on yet??
Yater wasn’t even considering flex when he thinned the nose on the first “spoon”. It was an unexpected after thought. Lowel
Flex is fun.I can’t wait to see more.
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Indeed.
Flex is fun.
Too much,bad.
Too little, bad.
Controlling it is the goal.
http://www.barrysnyderdesigns.com/torsional-propulsion–torsion-drive-stringers.html
Gunkie bump
