Trying to do an old Gerry Lopez Lightning bolt style gun....

Want to throw a little bit of retro flavor into large surfing. DOH+ish waves.

The dims I currently got:

7’6" x 17.5 x 2.75

Nose 11 1/16 (1 foot from)

Tail 9 9/16 (1 foot from)

Is 17.5" too narrow? Templating it from a much bigger board that had 18.5 as the wide point (which is pushed foward)

Pintail board and I’m not entirely certain if it will be a trifin with a large center, or a single. Havent decided yet.

About the width, ok or not ok? With the rest of the volume, the board should be alright, but I’m having second thoughts about the narrow width.

Aloha

Bryan

From this gun more or less:

http://www.surfresearch.com.au/00000181.html

aloha

Bryan

Hey Bri…

Gerry’s a little tyke, even smaller than me, maybe 135lbs in his heyday…

At 7’6", you’d need at least 19.5 and close to 3" thick to get some paddling.

At 140 or so lbs., I had a few 7’9" x 17.5’s, and they paddled much worse than a 5’6" twin fin 20" wide. Board never comes to surface of the water, catching waves super late.

Thought you weighed close to 185 or so…

You’re looking more at JeffHakman sized boards then.

Remember those old Hanapepe Surfboards…most around 7’7" x 17.75, floated everyone armpit in the water, and that’s with no wetsuit…

I’m around 180 or so right now. I definately think I should add to the thickness, but I want to keep the board streamlined away from the “fun gun”. this board is going to be made to find a line and go through, but I’m thinking 17.5 is WAY too narrow - 18.5 borders “fun gun” though, from my eyes

aloha

Bryan

post say 72 the withs moved bac up closer to 19

the 17’'ers were Bary K. influenced

the radical narrow ness dissapeared in a hurry when many opted to catch waves.

Mobley led the way out of the narrow age

arround here ,jim beaver damerel  

showed with a 21’’ wide semi gun and the 16 3/4’‘-18’’ boards were dropped

although they exceled at down the line and inside out drops

the wave catching of the width made a difference.

7’6’’ aint a big device.

catching waves in a world of bigger board itus is a realistic option.

the later lopez renditions all seem to be more like 19+

what a great board this will be.

somday somebody will wanna make a board just lilke yours.

…ambrose…

you are the wellspring of innovation

dig it!

Awhile back at the Maui Lightening Bolt store I saw BK’s old 17 incher bolt gun pin on the wall that someone bought at the last auction.

I couldn’t imagine anyone riding something that skinny and shaped like that.

But then again I remember doing just that in 1971-1972…

We used to call them bobsleds… scoop nose and all

Just take off bottom turn, point the nose down the line throw the lopez limp wrist cool stance and go for the barrel.

I don’t remember turning too much on those long skinny sleds…wonder why…

But I was like 130-140 then too…

17x7’6 is really narrow you’d want a better curve like LeeDD said especially if you want to turn it and not stall.

Also gun rockers were a lot different then…we had a 74 singlefin gun from that era shaped by bill hickey, it barely had 2 inches on an 8 ft board with a 9 inch tail…performance 7’6" you will want closer to 2.75" rear rocker. I wanted to take it out by bill told me it would be no good, taking someone used to 90s rockers on a 70s rockered gun.

Tail width and fin choice matter…9 inches use only a single. The classic lightning bolts were singles. Down rails all the way up. Scoop nose, flat rear rocker.

If you want 3 fins I’d make that tail at least 11 inches wide…I’d prefer 12.5 inches wide on a 7’6", especially if I had your weight.

I think if you make and ride a lightning bolt board you will be amazed how deep lopez got on them. But if you do it, go all the way…wp way forward, flat rocker, down but not hard rails, thick, narrow. Paint a lightning bolt on it, ride it twice, and hang it on the wall…don’t forget to use volan cloth and glass the fin on.

Hey Bryan,

That Bolt board is built. I mean BUILT! By today’s standards wayyyy overbuilt.

All hand made with full strength resin and foam, but the glass was Colorflow and tinted. So it had to be cut clean and then a hand painted pin line over the lap tops off the show.

It is from the heyday of American Craftsmanship and technology. When we built rocketships completely by hand, one piece at a time, including the calculations, that took men safely from earth to the moon and back and never lost a one. Onboard computers were no more powerful than a typical cell phone. What time it was. The surfboards were no less quality.

If you go by the Marlboro standard they would cost $1400.00 in todays USD.

It’s an effort worth trying. But I don’t know if you can get colored glass anymore.

Mark

So you mean getting that thing machine shaped is not a good idea?

I kid I kid. I will probably be painting directly onto the foam and glassing over. Or I might go all white with a simply lam, and pinline the first coat. Not sure yet.

I’m WAY more worried about functionality at the moment then making a replica. This is a board I intend to ride, and ride hard. I want something old school, no doubt.

Blake, I fully intend to follow your directions. Where should I put the fin if it’s a glass on? I was thinking box in order to slightly adjust…

aloha

Bryan

you should PM Bill Barnfield he’s built a ton of those style boards over the years…

I’m sure he has some good advice

Danny Nichols is another who still builds them for Bolt…

dims from a board in the mode from that era, tho not a bolt, per se.

from a channin semi: # 3150. 1973. still a beautiful yellow tint with cutlaps, no pinlines and a fin box…no loop nor cup. from before that time.

7’5"

t: 11.25

n: 12.50

widepoint 19.5 (yeh, i measured 2 or 3 times).

baby diamond tail 3.5’ where the ends pull back to the daimond tip.

thickness. gawd. no calipers. big domed deck maybe 3.5 at the thickest, maybe 4" … down to hard down rails raising softly up the last 16 inches or so to the nose.

last ridden in hurricane surf about 10 years ago.

no idea who the shaper was. any ideas?

anyhow…i don’t know where you’d get a blank today that would allow that big domed deck. still and all…advise a single fin if you want the real feel.

You can go into WiseSurfboard today and see a '75 7’3" x 18.75 rounded square tail single fin with about 13 nose, 12 tail, flat deck and SOFT turned down rails with the slightest double concave I shaped then… Looks like it would still work today and it’s surrounded by all the big guy tris, DesertIslands, and Rusty semi guns… except for the butt ugly color…which I didn’t do…