proneman,
what is the nose width on those andreini and PG guns you posted on the other thread? have you experienced any problems with them when the wind picks up? thanks
If he had been on a “standard” pin tail gun(same length) instead of the board he is on…would he have made it down the face of that wave?
roger
The Paul Gross semi-gun is 13 3/4 tail…14 3/4 nose…Not sure of Andreini details…
I posted this pic before, but some may find it interesting. The green board I found one early morning on the beach at Lanikea. The bottom was thrashed and all 3 fins gone and part of a leash was hangin off it. It was made by Joe Quigg’s son for Ace Cool…apparently a North Shore madman who at one time was trying to ride the biggest wave on Oahu. I contacted Quigg’s son whose name I dont remember and he gave me Mr. Cool’s phone #…So I called him to see if he wanted the board…he had been riding some outer reefs in the late afternoon when the board got away from him. I believe he said he was somewhere outside of Jockos. It was the first big swell of the winter(might have been 2 years ago) Anyway…we never hooked up to return it but this winter I will get it to him…he did not want it bad enough to drive to Kailua…so I have been less than overly concerned.
The other board is the PG 9-3
roger
Mr. Astevens,
Not experienced any problems at all cause I aint ridin those kinda waves and I expect that there are very few round here that are either. I paddle out when it is maybe pushin 21/2 times overhead and would be lookin for the smaller ones…
Pic above Andreini(yellow) and Tommy Trim’s 1995± Paul Gross winter Rincon board
Me too...don't have the balls:)
Just wondering about a problem in some strong off shore winds
What do you guys think about his comments on wide-point, outline, belly, etc at about the 5:40 mark?
The ‘‘slap’’ that he refers to can(and does) happen any time you come to your feet too soon, and get hung up in the lip, triggering a late drop. While a wider than ‘‘normal’’ nose doesn’t help the situation, it’s not the cause. Belly is your friend when you’re paddling for the wave, not once you’re on it. The ‘‘secret’’ to a successful takeoff, in larger waves is…drum roll…, taking two or three powerful strokes down the face of the wave, before you come to your feet. It’s a counterintuitive behavior, that many riders overlook, leading to more excitement on takeoff, than is really necessary. The big wave gun of 1957, was very different from the big wave guns of 1959,'60, and '61. In those years Pat Curren, and Alan Nelson, worked together on refining the nuances of the design.
And thank goodness that the guns of 2015 are different than any of those old dried up beasts.
Bill T, what are the dimensions of the board you built for Bird that you brought to the Boardroom 2014?
That was a beautiful board.
That was a nine foot six inch pintail. The board was twentyone inches wide. The wide point is at 40% of board length, from the nose.
i know christian. he is legit. for a surf related read get his book “journey of the cormarant” ( i thinkthat’s the title) he made a little sailboat and sailed it around baja surfing some outer reefs as well as the usual spots along the way-solo i might add…
thanks Bill
right on Matt. That wave in the video is legit too
Funny, but this thread just triggered a memory (that may or may not exist…) of Doc Renneker surfing a twin keel at mavericks, I could swear I remember an article I read about that, I think the board might have even been lost at sea somehow as part of the article
I suppose you are making a point of some kind. What is it?
I know the article that you are referring to Lankamese. It was a TSJ article and the board was a stretched “fish”. Deep swallow tail and twin keels.
My point is:Technology and innovation combined with learnings from the past is good. Waves have stayed the same, but boards and construction has changed. There has been lot of good surfboard design and innovation since 19**…ie George Grenough and that crazy fin of his. One could argue that the greatest innovatived time in surfboard design and construction has happened since the demise of Clark foam, there has been a lot of break throughs in the way we make a surfboard. If you saw any of the WSL Fiji Pro, you could potentially concur (but doubt) that the current state of surfing is at an all time high. I didn’t see anybody on a twin fin gun, or even thing remotely looking like a 60’s, 70’s, or 80’s shape, I know the waves are not what you would call “gun needed size”…but I digress. Anyhow thatz all I was talking bout Willis.
Doc does have a large red fish that he rides and Parmenter single fin guns with wide noses. He has a new ThunderBolt 9’+ single fin from MR that looks like a wet dream. It has a hard edge rail 1/3 up the board from the tail.
It all works if you can get over the ledge on the right one that stays open. Taking an extra stroke for Jesus and fully committing has more to do with making it than your board.