USED BOARD BS PRICES GOING OUT TO ALL

General Discussion
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Hey Everyone,

I was just hoping that as a collective we could disallow people like that ahole who posted the Bing for sale to post items for sale on Sways. I have the exact same board (except for the fem color) and new I paid only 850$ a year ago. That jack ass did not pay that for that board and it is way to soon to assume the value has increased. The jerk is not even selling it for what he/she paid for it. Sighting clark going under as the reason it is worth more now just pisses me off. You know f*@kers like Surfride and so on won’t be paying premium prices for used boards but you know they will be selling them at a premium. One tongue says to the seller of the used board “Oh the clark thing is not that serious of an issue” the other tongue says to the new buyer “Oh you know these are scarce with the shortage of foam thats an extra 200$” they are no better than OPEC. Here at sways though, we have the opportunity to stop that bullshit from going down. I hope there is some way to remedy this.

Chicksav

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Quote:

Things, they are a changing,

it is blowing in the wind.

There is a China wave a comin’,

and it will drown you in the end.

So grab your china life-jacket,

and pray these well meaning folks,

don’t get the urge to take a poke,

then bend you over and pack it in.

Let’s welcome them by the hoard,

just like we welcome blue crushers,

we can give up all our surf spots,

to everyone riding a china board.

2nd Verse

Now that foam is playin hide-n-seek,

and the forecast looks kinda bleak,

watch out for profiteers and tell them we don’t play,

and maybe these vultures will just go away.

So get the word out about these folks,

let them know they are no blokes,

but if they insist on screwing sheeple,

say what you have to say to those ‘people’.

Does anyone speak Chinese?

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I hear ya Chick, we’ll see a rash of money hungry “Bruces”. There’s really nothing you can do except keep people informed. Cheers.

buy wood, shape wood, surf wood.

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“Your complacency and inability to make a stand drives the big business and imprisons you in lifeless repetition.”

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If he finds someone willing to pay that price, why should we stand in the way? Supply/demand. Try to find a new Bing in a shop right now. There ain’t any left. There has been a run on them. Get used to higher prices. That price may turn out to be a bargain in the near future for a hand-shaped pu/pe board given what is going on. The future may be more like what we see in the custom, hand-made bike world. $6,000 for a hand made titanium bike vs. a $399 Chinese-made Schwinn. I know that price differential is extreme, but it illustrates the point.

If you think it is a rip-off, you are free to pass it up.

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I’ll tell you why we should stand in his way because we are the industry, we are the consumer. As for the Bings being not available…? Have you checked? Long Board Grotto in Encenitas still has em. Icons of Surf in San Clemente still has them. Your just making assumptions about available board inventories like everyone else. Do you think that all of the sudden the guys who were not planning to buy a 1000 dollar surfboard are going to go buy one now just because of this clark BS. If the money was not there in the first place it is not going to be there now. What we need to stop is the gouging of guys who were going to buy a board this week anyway. Those poor bastards don’t deserve to be gouged. We are not the oil industry. I am just suggesting we keep the snakes out of our paradise if you will. Besides, that board is a pre black monday board. I don’t think boards should be like comic books. If some sucker wants to buy it fine. But there are plenty of places for the suckers (i.e. ebay, craigslist etc.) Don’t let it happen here.

Chicksav

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Dear Chicksav,

I absolutely agree with you that people, during a time of “disaster”, taking advantage of the situation should be dealt with in the harshest manor possible but saying that is this really a time of “disaster”?

A few thoughts:

This country runs on the theory of supply and demand. Have you been watching the gas prices in the last year? We all think the gas companies are sticking it to us but that is their business (not to stick it to us but to make the most profit possible).

How much would you pay for a custom made table? Why aren’t custom (true custom) hand shaped surfboards in that same price range? I know someone will bring up the disposablity of some of the current boards but what about the boards that are built with quality that are suppose to be boards you can pass to your children? Aren’t they worth the price of a custom table. In my opinion the custom board price should rank right with a custom table purchase and in that case $1100 for a bing is still about $1000 to low.

Austin is worried about the current situation just like everyone. We have about 11 blanks and most of those are for customs already ordered. We have discussed walker blanks (which we have ordered in the past thank goodness), we have talked about ordering from overseas, and we have also discussed the epoxy situation, and we also positive that someone will pick up where Grubby left off, maybe not in the near future but eventually.

I wise man named Ambrose once told Austin, when we were discussing prices of surfboards, if you need a can of beans a surfboard is worth that much. If you are not in need you can ask anything you want the sky is the limit as long as your need can wait. The problem that some people aren’t working from their need but from their greed. Is it greedy or needy when a surf shop or board maker raises their prices because they are worried about meeting their monthly obligations like rent?

Austin and I discussed the situation and for our remaining stock we will not increase the cost but if we find out that the materials are going to cost more we will have to also make the necessary adjustments. Truthfully we discuss raising prices on the last few boards to make up for some of the loss we are going to experience in the next few months but we decided not to do it. I am not sure if I could blame a shop if they did it because they wanted to make rent.

The next few weeks will tell.

Sincerely,

Troy

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sell yours for 100bux

show that kuk userous butt crak

who’s the MAN!

then go buy another one made from the new stuff!

you know it !

the value of a comode oddity

is developed by the people who are willing and able to buy

if the 1963 bing was reproduced accuratly

its 128.oo price would be approximatly 2000.00 give or take a hundred dollars

if they are new at less than 800.00

in 1964 the would be light glassed team boards that simply wont survive the duration.

As An overpriced comode oddity

it will be turned into a museum piece.

the smithsonian will accept the gift in 30 years for their collection

the tax credit for the estate of mrs Fabershams

waffle cartel will evade millions of dollars in tax liabilities

while the Bing that got lost into the corona jetty will be polution on the beach.

DONT BUY IT IF YOU CANT USE IT,let alone concieve that even you are worth 900.00 an hour

if somebody will pay it

…ambrose…

new poly urethane blanks will cost 15dollars

in 1966 dollars thats less than $1.50

squat is worth more than the U.S. dollar

the smoke and mirrors

are keeping you from seeing

our economy being sold down river

prices are not going up the value of our currency is speeding up in its devaluation

divide the surfboard dollars by the cost of your next years food rent ,gas[heat and trans]

and tax

buy a cllue?

2 bux

mail it to me it wont buy a comic book,

a new comic book

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look up your state’s statutes on PRICE GOUGING. in florida, it’s quite stiff. granted, no state of emergency has been declared…but that doesn’t mean it isn’t an emergency for some.

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Howzit T, Good for you and Austin, it’s nice to see somebody not trying to take advantage of the situation. I haven’t looked at the prices of boards here in the shops but think I will check today and see if they are gouging or not. The not so funny thing is that Hanalei Surf Co. has turned into Hanalei Surftech Co since 90% of their stock is now Surftechs. They have a high price marked on them then it’s crossed out and a lower (but not that low) price marked on them. Kinda like the jewelery stores that offer 50% off after they’ve marked the items up 100% so the company still makes a 50% profit. Hang in there you and Austin make some beauties. Aloha,Kokua