Aloha!
I can´t find nothing in the archives about this point, and maybe someone can help me.
I need to know if the velcro pads like these http://www.shapers.com.au/category44_1.htm
are good gear for sanding hotcoats and glosscoats.
since I´M A GLUE HATER BOY, these pads can help.
I would love any advice!
keep smiling
Sorry mates, the pic!
very begginer,
If Shaper’s Australia offers it, it is specifically suited for surfboard building. I have their velcro hand sanding pads and they are very nice! You will want firm pad(s) for sanding hotcoats and softer for rubbing out. You might want to check if those pads only use the sandpaper they sell. Shipping from Oz is fairly costly so you might want to buy plenty of sandpaper as well.
Dave_D
that’s the stuff. i made my own in different degrees of firmness – 1 with pillow foam (very soft), 1 with a big sponge (soft), 1 with a foam camping pad (medium-firm). total cost for all 3 was about $10-15.
Aloha Dave_D!
thanx for the advice, i think the same way you do. They don´t want to sell bad stuff, but I´m thinking about the “outline” of the sand paper to. Lot of posts here about the best way to do the cut…some say “totally round”, some other “with points”…“+2 inches”, “”+1 inch" i don´t know! They only sell totally round velcro-sandpaper…I´m a bit lost…and how you said…THE FREIGHT OVERSEAS IS NOT CHEAP!
Mahalo
Aloha Soulstice!
Thanx for these tips man…but I´m tired of searching every single shop here and don´t find the correct stuff…so I give up…
Please can you tell me how you cut the velcro-sandpaper?? totally round?
thanx one more time!
I use velcro sandpaper on my Porter Cable 6" contour pad (soft). It’s very handy but the paper is a little expensive. My sander has a dust kit so the sandpaper has 6 holes in it to allow for the dust to get sucked up. I thought about going with glue and cutting my own pads, but putting holes in the center just seems like too much hassle. The cheapest paper I could find was at coastaltool.com or coastaltools.com. Bought my porter cable sander there too.
i don’t use the velcro stuff. i buy it in large sheets and stick it on to the base of my homemade sanding pads with some 3M #77 spray adhesive. works great.
cut your paper in an octagon shape…prevents swirl marks.
Aloha punasurf!
Thanks fr the info man, i would do a research on the web.
Is truth, a bit more expensive sandpaper, but if the ending product worth it its ok.
Mahalo
Thanx Soulstice!
I have only one problem about glue on discs…the glue! I only find super77 adhesive like you told me…buttttt, its about 20 dollars a can! (Remeber i´m in south america).
Can you give me an idea about how many discs can you attach with one can (just an idea of course)??
Mahalo
a lot. it really doesn’t take much of the stuff to get a good stick. still, though…$20/can…that’s nuts!!!
Howzit very begginer, Instead of using super 77, try using Tacky, it works better and you don’t get as much glue build up on the pad. I pay about $16 for 16oz and it lasts a while if you apply it to the pad and wait a few hours before appling sandpaper. The only down side is when it comes to sanding down fin boxes and plugs, the tacky heats up and wants to move around on the pad. For that type of sanding I use Clearco which is really is sticky and you need a heat gun to get it off the pad so I have one pad that I use it on. Super 77 was industry standard for years but I think Tacky has taken it’s place over super 77. Try it, it’s good stuff.Aloha,Kokua
Thanx again Soulstice!
Its A CRAZY PRICE! but its the only way to do it…
The good thing is the cool performance that each can have-
MAHALO
Aloha Kokua!
How are you?? Hope ok!
Sticky glue is a cool stuff for sure, but it can´t be freight overseas since its dangerous. At least it was the response from some of the sellers.
So, if 77 was an industry standard it must be good, now what do you think about it?? Its the best choice, because I read a lot about 90 spray from 3M, do you know it?
Keep the spirit Hombre
MAHALO
The reason I use Tacky is it leaves less glue buildup on the pad and you can change sand paper about 6 times with out having to put more glue on the pad.Aloha,Kokua
Aloha kokua!
Thats great! I would love to buy that glue…but its impossible here :((((
The fact is that I cand find 3M products very well…so what is the best choice in this case?
77 or 90 spray? Pors, cons??
MAHALO
77 is cheaper but 90 works better with heat/high temps…77 is all you need to adhear the paper.90 is great for building your own pads.Look around in discount stores for some less costly spray glues.Buy one can and test it out ,if it works to your satisfaction,then buy more.
I use either 90, Quick set 5200 marine adhesive or marine grade goop to build my own pads.Herb
Aloha Herb!
Thanx for the tips amigo!
If 77 works similar to 90 and is cheaper, sounds like a very good option.
Have you ever tried glue shoes on pads???
MAHALO
I think you mean,“Shoe Goo” correct ?
Yes, I started out using Shoe Goo (TO MAKE MY OWN PADS, NOT TO GLUE PAPER TO THE PAD). and used it for some time,but I started using the Marine grade Goo in the last 4 or 5 years instead.
Shoe Goo comes in other grades /labels eg. Wood and Furniture, Marine, Plumming, Household,etc.
Another good source of glue to make pads is Neoprene glue ,like for wetsuit repairs…either black or clear works great !
Also,Plastic dip/tool dip as it’s called works great as a sealer for the sides or surface of the pad(s) as well.I never tried bonding pad materials with plastic dip,but I bet it would work just fine in most applications.(Note: use the can/liquid plastic dip rather than the spray-on. The spray-on stuff just goes on to thin for most of my uses and seems that the thinning agents in the spray-on plastic dip make the plastic weaker.)
ADD: double sticky tape ,foam ,or rubber Works great to adhear paper to pads.In the past,I have ran out of glue to apply paper to my pads so I used one or the other mentioned and it worked,not cheap,but in a acute hurry it works great !(A quality grade like 3m’s) .
V.B.,
Hope all is good with you,and maybe someday on a longshot I might be able to come to your country and surf your waves.Herb
Aloha Herb!
Thanx one more time amigo! you understand me ok, sorry about my POOR english…lol
these are great tips, like always coming from you.
I´m great, thanx! I can´t wait for that day Herb.
Like you told me once…KEEP THA SPIRIT HOMBRE
Mahalo