I think Mr. Logee is pulling your leg, I do step decks, but don’t let the > step go out to the rail line. It looks crude with the rail line having a > sudden change in foil. I always try to use enough wood so that it won’t > snap at the step, so far so good! Thanx Jim, He must have been in a bad mood that day, or too much salt water between the ears. By the way, I was with another old friend of yours yesterday. Pat Mcnulty. All the guy’s send their best. I gave Pat this site yesterday, so he may be dropping by. He showed me the board you had built for his son a few years back, a rounded pin in the 9’ range. Pat is going to let me try it next swell, this is the 1st board I’ve seen in a while that resembles a board I’m trying to replace. Stay Well, Fred
Sointainly! Similar to the way we used to store our old wooden Davis Cup tennis rackets. Jim once again, thanks! TS>>> Twist almost always comes from improper storage. Randy Wong at Channin’s > has a set of twist removers, they are made from 2x2’s, on each set one > piece is about 24" and the 2nd piece is about 36". At one end > the 2 pieces are flushed up and put together with a really long carraige > bolt. At the end of the 24" both pieces are drilled for another bolt. > They are slipped over the nose and tail, with the extention ends in > opposite directions. Tighten up the bolts to snug and then hang a bucket > of sand from from each of the long arms. With the weight out from the > board, the twist will slowly be taken out. It is a matter of checking the > board from time to time to see when it is back to normal.
Twist almost always comes from improper storage. Randy Wong at Channin’s > has a set of twist removers, they are made from 2x2’s, on each set one > piece is about 24" and the 2nd piece is about 36". At one end > the 2 pieces are flushed up and put together with a really long carraige > bolt. At the end of the 24" both pieces are drilled for another bolt. > They are slipped over the nose and tail, with the extention ends in > opposite directions. Tighten up the bolts to snug and then hang a bucket > of sand from from each of the long arms. With the weight out from the > board, the twist will slowly be taken out. It is a matter of checking the > board from time to time to see when it is back to normal. I know twist can look ugly,etc. but is it necessarily a bad thing?case in point,velo.It had twist in it which George tried to get out.(never did).Follow\up velos did not have twist, nor did they have the same performance. George and Paul figured it was the twist(it just happened to bend the right way,they figured), so they tried duplicating that smae twist in subsequent boards to no avail.So, in this case, twist was a positive thing.I have a longboard spoon with twist in the front third, which must have tweaked in the right direction, cause it works like no otther that I have ridden.Flex fins can do the same thing.I guess my long-winded point is don’t automatically assume twist in a board is a negative thing cause it could in fact be a very good thing.Hope you all get some quality surf this weekend!
I know twist can look ugly,etc. but is it necessarily a bad thing?case in > point,velo.It had twist in it which George tried to get out.(never > did).Follow\up velos did not have twist, nor did they have the same > performance. George and Paul figured it was the twist(it just happened to > bend the right way,they figured), so they tried duplicating that smae > twist in subsequent boards to no avail.So, in this case, twist was a > positive thing.I have a longboard spoon with twist in the front third, > which must have tweaked in the right direction, cause it works like no > otther that I have ridden.Flex fins can do the same thing.I guess my > long-winded point is don’t automatically assume twist in a board is a > negative thing cause it could in fact be a very good thing.Hope you all > get some quality surf this weekend! Matt, That
s a fascinating point, as George even considers his "Velo" as an anomaly... and speaking of favorable twist resulting in asymmetrical control: correct me if Im wrong, but naturally occurring things are never truly symmetrical, nor are waves or anyone`s surfing… unless you happen to sit, kneel or lay on the design in question. Throughout history, initially regrettable mistakes and accidents have often been interpreted from later times as fortunate portals to new discoveries.
Very good points from both you and Dale. This classic is a shared asset. I get to keep it and ride it in exchange for some minor repairs etc. The twist is noticeable but I think before trying to remove it I’ll spend some time trying to surf with it. I’m going to post some details of this board in the “Classics” area. It is an extreme example of the step and concaves used in this erea. Got to hand it to the guys who were shaping back then, there were some very innovative minds. Tom>>> I know twist can look ugly,etc. but is it necessarily a bad thing?case in > point,velo.It had twist in it which George tried to get out.(never > did).Follow\up velos did not have twist, nor did they have the same > performance. George and Paul figured it was the twist(it just happened to > bend the right way,they figured), so they tried duplicating that smae > twist in subsequent boards to no avail.So, in this case, twist was a > positive thing.I have a longboard spoon with twist in the front third, > which must have tweaked in the right direction, cause it works like no > otther that I have ridden.Flex fins can do the same thing.I guess my > long-winded point is don’t automatically assume twist in a board is a > negative thing cause it could in fact be a very good thing.Hope you all > get some quality surf this weekend!
Matt,>>> That
s a fascinating point, as George even considers his "Velo" > as an anomaly... and speaking of favorable twist resulting in asymmetrical > control: correct me if Im wrong, but naturally occurring things are never > truly symmetrical, nor are waves or anyone`s surfing… unless you happen > to sit, kneel or lay on the design in question. Throughout history, > initially regrettable mistakes and accidents have often been interpreted > from later times as fortunate portals to new discoveries. Yes indeed!