very short , very wide

lightbulb…4’11 Long x 27"wide x ?.?"thick kneeboard thing…

for me 6’6 x 230 ibs,

paddling shouldnt be a problem with my ogre reach and swim fins…

possibly with a full length deck pad for a blackball beater look…

some questions for you guys,

how thick do you think i should go?

…( im 20 years old and a strong swimmer/paddler…)

Rocker #‘s ??? i want this board to handle 1’-5’ mush stuff…

…(my current favorite board is 6’1 x 24" x 2.5 with 5 1/2" nose rocker and 2 1/4" in the tail)

what do you think of my template?

WIDEPOINT??? suggestions?

AND FINS!!! Im leaning towards TRI but quad might be Necessary for control?

im thinking standard placement instead of the Fins-forward boards ive been riding… but might have to move em up a smidge eh?

at what length does the fins-forward (aussie) setup stop working? i think the smallest “aussie” fin set-up board ive seen is 5’8…

On the template - more nose, otherwise the tail is going to drive the nose under everytime you try to top turn or cutback.

The fins forward principle works because the side fins are wider apart so the board retains drive even tho the fins are foward. It allows you to have a longer board (rail line) and all the benefits that brings, but keep the board loose. Does not seem logical to do it on a tiny board.

27" wide! Man, your clacker is going to be clean after you straddle that thing waiting for a wave :->

skamatt,

I like your style my friend… Im looking to do a 7’0" fish at 25" wide to give it the same proportion as a true fish. Like you I am tall (6’7" 250lbs)… Its refreshing to see you experimenting with shorter/wider boards. I think you should give the fish type template “a look see” with the wide point ahead of center with retro fish rocker at 3 1/4" thick. Maybe just round out or squash the swallow tail to make it easier to belly board>>>>?? Post a pic of the current board you are riding if you get a chance…

Bob

once upon a time in my past( mid/late 60’s), a friend made himself a kneeboard that was 4’8" and 25" wide with a big wide tail and blunt nose, it was a twin fin with the fins way out on the corners------it basicly sucked as a kneeboard BUT, we discovered that it rocked as a standup board! very little rocker and it flew! the local lifeguards had no clue what to do about it cause it wasn’t really a surfboard and wasn’t a air mat either. finally banned it during the day because of the fins. we rode that thing to death it was never dry! GO for IT! thats what this forum is about —give it a try, i think you’ll have fun

I remember last years sacred craft Larry mobile had a 4’10 board that was 23 wide I think. It looked so fun

for us big guys (6’-6" and 210 pounds), wider is a good thing, up to a point. 21" wide midpoint and around 15 1/2" tail is just right. If you have the weight and power to put it hard on a rail, it’s all good. You will know if you’ve taken it too far if it side-slips on the bottom turn, and won’t hold a high line through the tube.

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for us big guys (6’-6" and 210 pounds), wider is a good thing, up to a point. 21" wide midpoint and around 15 1/2" tail is just right. If you have the weight and power to put it hard on a rail, it’s all good. You will know if you’ve taken it too far if it side-slips on the bottom turn, and won’t hold a high line through the tube.

Everysurfer:

I understand from your post that you are an Advanced surfer?

Maybe you can help me with some numbers?

I make a lot boards for current Pro Surfers.

I’m working on a new model for the older surfer who is still riding a shortboard.

Most of the 50 year olds that still rip on a shortboard ride:

6’10 x 19.25 x 2.5 x 12 nose x 14 1/2 tail. 5’11 to 6’2 in height (Average)

However they are not as blessed to be as tall as you may be.

Let’s say for a 5’11" 160 pound fit surfer (Hawaii, Indo, OZ, South Africa, South America, Tahiti, Fuji, Mainland Mex, Baja) well traveled.

His standard everyday board apart from his step up guns is:

6’1 x 18 3/8 x 2 3/16 x 11 nose x 14 1/4 tail Thumbtail or Squash (a Few of Each) Rocker is what makes them magic!

Your 6’6" and 210 - Therefore according to the Math with your experience here’s how the numbers work out:

6’11 x 21 x 2.57 Nose 12 Tail 15.5

Thats taking a PRO Model and expanding it to fit an advanced surfer larger in size however well skilled.

Is that close to what you ride?

I’m thinking to make my shortboards shorter for the SB40 crew (Shortboards over Forty)

Just wondering what a 6’6 surfer would ride as a shortboard?

I took one of the guys (5’10 x 160 x 47 years old) down to a 6’3 x 19 x 2 3/8 x 11 nose x 14.25 tail from a 6’6 x 19.25 x 2 7/16

and he’s ordering his 3rd one of that size. Rocker is the key (I’m not sharing that part).

It’s kind of cool to see a lot of guy’s over 40 going shorter and staying fit as the kids.

Longboarding is cool however it just seems that the older surfers that shortboard are more fit than the guy’s riding longboards?

Dont get me wrong I like to surf everything: Long, Short, Guns, Fishes, Bonzers, Quads.

I’m referring to boards for simple rip sessions when the waves are firing!

You may come from that same mind set?

This is the board in this picture. Your dimensions are pretty close, just

a little shorter. I like this board for head high to head and a half, if there

is a pretty good barrel, but I still want to turn. For full on speed, I add

an inch or two to the length, take an inch off the nose width , and 1/2 "

off the mid point width.

For double overhead I’ll go up to 7’-6" but keep the same width. At triple

overhead, unless it’s fun and not threatening, I’ll sit on the beach and

admire the youth! The lungs seem to be the first thing to go, and I

really like to breath!

Cool! So I’m not that far off?

6’7" - Ability Factor

6’11 - Straight Math

6’11 x 0.95 Factor = 6’7

Thanks for the information!

SD

thanks everyone, Red your advice was very helpful, much appreciated…

made a blank for it with scrap EPS…ive been messin with different templates…right now it has a longboard nose, flashy outline and trash lid tail…

definetly not done, a work in progress…

mudybech, heres a couple photos of my Flashpoints…shaped by Bruce Hart in OZ…

hmm didnt upload? …il try something else…

the white board is 6’2 x 23" x 2 1/4" and works best in 8-12’ faces…

the purple cow is 6’2 x 24" x 2 1/2" , my favorite board and works best in 2’-8’

and heres the obese dwarf of subject…

I made some sub 5’ x 22’s for a PaulOrlando in the old daze, and they worked really well for tiny waves under surfer’s 4’ and slow down the line.

Not much projection outta bottom turns, very pivoty off the top, a good thing.

Smallest he got was 4’3" x 22, but that one was thick at just over 2" for tiny waves on the Marin Coast.

For OceanBeach, he rode a standard 5’8" twin swallow.

Gave one of them to RichThornton, 6’6" and 220lbs. (USOlympics, '80) who absolutely detested it for small OceanBeach, saying he hardly made any waves unless he took off on the shoulder.

Sorta found the same thing when I made standups under 5’ for my friends and I, they didn’t project down the line, so you modified your surfing with a top turn and get direction before really dropping in.

Good thing thos, my fav twin fin surfboards were 5’4" to 5’6", and that’s for head high waves.

a longer board in a lazor zap outline (Cheyne Horan special and contest board),would probably bring you the best blend

of maneuvaribility, paddling and larger wave abilities.

For you consider starting at 5’8" minimum.

Dump the lid!

Read Loehrs Theory of Pitch/Balance.

http://www.swaylocks.com/resources/detail_page.cgi?ID=546

http://www.swaylocks.com/forum/gforum.cgi?post=118169;search_string=theory%20pitch;#118169

http://www.swaylocks.com/forum/gforum.cgi?post=382501;search_string=theory%20pitch;#382501

http://www.surfresearch.com.au/00000112.html

gonna go more double ender i think…with the tail a bit wider…

Lazerzaps dont look very blackball friendly…

im thinking 40th st and kneelo cove HB are gonna be really fun next summer!

Black ball beater?!

Nevermind!

…may be dedicate more time to Basket ball or wrestling

sorry, Im joking

do you stand up in the 6 1 kneeboard?

thanks