I’d plead the fifth 
Logical to conclude then that the vast majority of boards with volumes marked on them are not hand shaped…
hahahaha
good one MD
Doesn't matter to me. When a guy comes to me and complains about how poorly the last board he bought paddles(not usually mine) or tells me it sits too low in the water when he's surfing it; I tell him I'll put more volumne in his new one. There are only three dimensions I pencil in on a stringer. If you don't know what they are; You aren't a shaper, glasser, sander or anything else relatated to the trade.
the post office measures length
and girth and weight.If thet was
good enough for Ben Franklin
whell thet oughta be enough .
…ambrose…
Lets yous amd mee’s
invent a measurement.
Call it somthing obtuse
or mebe oblique and use it
over and over in mixed company
till somebody supposes it
is indispensible…
then we need
a graph chart.
give a % to
save endangered
shorebirds.
When a guy comes to me and complains about how poorly the last board
he bought paddles(not usually mine) or tells me it sits too low in the
water when he’s surfing it
guys who complain about the board they are riding have not put in the time to know their own skill level. It helps tons if a shaper can watch you surf and then make what will work. Or just buy second hand beaters and put in your licks untill ya got it figured out. The measurements and volumes written on a board are no more than vague references for those who don’t have the skill to know what will work for them. I good surfer seems to judge a board more by feel and heft and eye than measurements or volume.Shape it glass it hot coat it and surf it.That show room finish isn’t going to make it surf any beter. after a good surf session then Volume matters, A Bud , A Fosters, A Quart, A six pack, or a case thats where Volume really counts !!! Any more than a Bud or Fosters , you better not drive or the man might get you !!
…Floatation is important !..so it can float through the postal system easier , with a minimal amount of postal drag.
Analog is smoother. Digital can’t do a perfect sine wave, unless you have a very very high sampling. That’s why machined blanks need to be finished by hand. Gotta be finished in analog.
“Gotta be finished in analog” ;oD Thats one cool line!
I’ve said for years, some of us are just analog guys in a digital world.
Hi Sharkcounty:
Exactly!
Kind regards,
surfding
Hi Mike:
This is a CHART on VOLUME I made a few years ago that gives a general Ideal how I detrime Volume in Liters.
More or Less!
Kind regards,
michael aka surfding
very good chart surfding , spot on for me .
…hello Surfding,
what s exactly are those factors and in what s based?
May you explain a bit?
Thanks
–However, I still say that big % of customers do not give a fuck about it.
I repeat that the guys that like bigger boards do not like a small design no matter if that board float them right.
The guys who like small HPSB do not like boards except thinner ones, no matter if those boards do not float for them
Hi REVERB:
I made the formula based on a few factors:
Ability
Size
Ocean Conditions
Stamina
It’s just a base.
Foil is part of the TAILORING!
Your correct that many surfers don’t care about this number nor have the intellect to understand the simplest forms of MATH.
I don’t make fun boards plus I don’t have this type of customer.
However for the DESIGNER/SHAPER it’s a useful formula (TOOL) to provide a surfboard that fits their level of need.
Kind regards,
surfding
…Surfding, I m referring to the numbers: “.35”, etc, due that my question.
The volume charts I’ve seen all seem to deal with shortboard volumes.
What about when applied to longboards?
Asking out of idle curiousity.
I think its a good reference to go by when getting a new board based on one you already have and like. Then it makes good sense. At 5'9'' x 80kg, i still like my 9'1'' x 22 1/2 x 3 longboard. Way too much volume, but the rolled bottom/ pinched rails make it smooth like buttah. Hoping at the end of the year to get an 8' Josh Dowling longboard, keeping the width and relaxed rocker, but bringing the thickness down to 2 1/2 or 2 5/8.
Hi Cuttlefish:
The chart covers them as well.
The way we use it is another isssue.
On a Longboard you won’t use a PRO LEVEL Volume for most surfers.
Use the Intermidate colum for longboards in general.
Once you do a few you will be able to interpet the chart to fit your logic.
Kind regards,
surfding
Newbie backyarder here, from my ‘experience’ with volume in HPSB surfdings chart is spot on.
I’m 185cm, approx. 6’1" and weigh in between 85 and 88 kg, beers dependent, but more on them later …
A small wave type board, like a JS ‘buried treasure’ that I have and surf as a quad, has 33 litres … too much for better waves, but more ‘float’ for smaller days works well … coming down to around the mid to high 30’s for HPSB …
First one I made for myself, AKU designed, had too much volume … next one, heaps better, next one being glassed now should be spot on.
Oh, yeah the beers … the litres in beers in AKU is using the same ‘beer volume’ factor mentioned earlier in this thread, and which, coincidently fits the .35 factor surfding has used for most of his table. So, for me, it gives me a measure to work to based around my weight. Very handy.
For those interest, the details of the boards I’ve made so far, with volumes, etc … are on the FFW Surfboards blog.
As someone mentioned earlier in the thread, the technology is here for people to design their boards and have them machine cut and glassed. That’s exactly what I am doing, although the first few I’ve glassed myself, but time restrictions have me outsourcing the glassing on the latest one.
Wingnut2443:
I love your stoke!
Just have fun and enjoy the ride.
Kind regards,
surfding