Wavefin [winged side fins ] test ride thread

......yewwww ... STOKED !!

 

 this morning was  head high , glassy / light offshore .

 

overcast.

 

  when the sun broke through the clouds , the light was GOLDEN !!

 

STRAIGHT off the bat , I caught four nice , lined up lefts [ and , in the space of maybe ten minutes ?!  unusual for me].

 

  very similar conditions [and riding the same board] , to this day that Simon [my brother ] photographed me on , on the first official day of  winter [ the 1st of June] , last year....

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this time I tried to consciously refrain from pigdogging , to concentrate on standing  more upright , and come off the bottom and off the top [ to be able to feel more what the fins were doing ]

 

  gotta say , Mark ...I reckon you are ONTO something here , mate !

 

  LOTS of drive off the bottom , and they certainly grab , and redirect well, off the top.

 As I said elsewhere , it always seems to be a good test for me and winged fins , backhand off the lip .  And this felt really firm , no slide . Released when I hoped it would , on a couple of backhand cutbacks .

 

 Today where I was  [picking a gap in the early morning crowd] was PREDOMINANTLY lefts , which I always enjoy [west oz is the LAND of lefts  , mostly , anyway !]

 

I will add to this , as I hope Malaroo , and surffoils will too .... when further discoveries / tests are made , mate .

 

hopefully, ' if ' the swell stays around today , I may get a midday or arvo session [it's 9am thursday here  at the moment , in perth woz]

 

  ...to be continued ...

 

  cheers !

 

  ben

 

[p.s. ...when a few more $ are available , you WILL be getting something in the post , mark , I haven't forgotten , don't worry ! ]

cant wait to try mine :slight_smile:

 

 

now what to use as quad trailers

.....yeahhhhh !

 

 Good on you , mate !

 

Can you please post your findings / 'feelings' / experience here , too ?

 

I'm really interested to hear how OTHERS go with them !

 

  what board [size , width , thickness ] is that you will be trialling them in ?

 

it will be interesting to hear how they go as a QUAD  setup , for sure !

 

depending on the size of the waves you will encounter , and how much you want to feel what the wavefins do [?] ....  I would go with the smallest trailers you can , that will still give you hold too , though ... but that's only my 2c worth ....

 

  cheers , and have fun ,  and ......go faaaaast !!!

 

  ben

 

  

test board ....6'11 x 20 x 2 5/8" richie west bullett [same test board as other three surfs]

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M3 fcs back fin ... [ and , when the surf is smaller , I will use the GS or the M.R. 'TX'  fin ....]

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okay .... 11.30am to 1.30pm [session no. 2 for the day ]....

 

Well,  it was still chest high on the sets , and relatively empty ....compared to this morning . Sunny , glassy / light offshore , when I first paddled out . Had that left bank to myself at first  . yewwwww !!

 

 then ...

 

THIS session , there were definately more rights than lefts . Which was nice , I am wanting to feel them out FOREHAND more !!

 

At 1pm it went slightly side / onshore [sou/ soueast ] , so it was interesting to feel how a bit of bump on the face may affect the wing tip's ability to hold in ....

 I did [feel it]

 On my last right [/ wave in] , going in a straight trim line , to setup a potential tube , the fin hit a bit of chop and sideslipped , somewhat . It reset near the base of the wave , okay , though . I have had the same sideslip happen with 'conventional' fins , and have eaten it  [wiped out].

 

  Also , one of my first waves , one head high 'bomb' left early on , was interesting .

 

  I took off high , trying to hold a high line under  the lip [ as the deep concaved , chine rail Walden I often ride , allows me to do ] .

 On this flatter bottomed narrower tailed board , the tail rail , and near the fins , slid sideways a bit [I did take off at a very straight across angle !]   It 'squirrelled' a bit , then reset the rail into the next section , dropped down , felt the inside fin [left] re-engage , and dropped down into the next section . No speed loss.  THAT felt pretty cool !!  I can't remember doing THAT too often on other boards of mine .

 

It's nice riding it on an area pin , it will be interesting trying the fins in the narrower [and thinner] gunther rohn pintail . That one is 5" shorter too, so I will feel the difference , I'm sure ! 

 After that ,  I would be keen to try them in the 6'3 rounded square tail , too, hopefully [waves permitting] to feel out the role / difference that each board's outline , length , and thickness play in the feel of how these fins work .

 

At least now we have a few peaks happening up and down the coast !

 

 ... and the crowds are more spread out , as a result , allowing for more waves to be ridden and more room to turn and try to get the fins up to speed [I want to see if they hum !  ....so far , not !]

 

  I'm really enjoying the different feel these fins give , and I think it will take quite a few more surfs in good conditions to see what ELSE they can do !

 

I'm very tempted to give my mate 'big Daz' a go on them , in HIS boards !

 

 ...he is riding a 5'9 and also a 5'4 [?!] , at the moment , both set up with fcs plugs .

 

It would be interesting to photograph and / or video him on these fins in his short boards , as he has way [weigh more?] power in his turns , than me ... what with his bigger girth , and all.

HE may be able to get them humming !!   And I'd also be keen to see him , and others , busting [and landing] air[s] with them , as I would like to see / film how they grip on 'air recovery moves' .... ? to be continued ? ... 

 

  'wavefin' Mark , have any of your Burleigh lads been filmed on them , at the home break ?  I'd LOVE to see how they maintain hold in a long tube , and also big open face carves [eg: lennox] ?

 

  cheers !

 

  ben 

Awww Ben ! Youre killing me with antici

pation.

 Its Friday tomorrow so if I get the Wavefins   I'll post a review on the weekend.

 Which way did you have the wingtips turned and at what angle did you set them...?

 

 Call you tonight. 8PM my time/ 6PM yours.

 

Very detailed report as usual!. That 6’11’’ looks unreal, any chance you could pm some nose and tail dims etc??.

hi brett

 

  pointing downwards

 

  almost parallel with the bottom of the board , it looks like

 

 hi mark beery !

 

cheers

 

  yeah it's become my favourite board   good ol' richie west eh ?  [ it's been a few years now since HE starred in 'crystal voyager' ! ....41 years  ? actually ?]

 

11 1/2  " nose

 

 13 7/8 "  tail [ I LOVE pintails !]

 

  cheers

 

  ben

Friday arvo and no fins yet... :-( 

I'll spend the weekend organising boards to put the fins into and I'll sleep next to the post box on Monday.

 Ben, I think parrallel to the hull will be the way to go but Im keen to feel the difference with the tips turned UP or DOWN.

 And my special idea of putting the frontside tip turned UP and the backhand tip turned DOWN.... Im thinking it will give more 'up and go' on forehand turns and more bite on backhand turns. What do you think...?

no idea ...

shall i try it ... ???

 

today , a large swell drop ....

I didn't want to ride my mal with "straight"  fins , so I put the 'deformed fins' [ THOSE are Wade's words , not MINE ...I really LIKE them !!] in this ....the other board I ride , a LOT !

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  [....Pictured and ridden today with Soul'n'Power's EXCELLENT 'one-tabbers' , in the front plugs ]

 

So ...

 now I have ridden them in a 6'6 , a wider and flatter board...and with [kind of] a quad  [/ ?'twinzer' , almost?] setup , too !

 

  the waves were mainly around the knee to waist high mark this morning , and high tide , so a bit fat and gutless / slow.

 

  It gave a chance to do a few trim lines , a few turns , at least , on the upside !

 

  I think the wings really get going better when the wave is a bit bigger and more hollow , it felt a little 'draggy' on a couple of the smaller, fatter waves . But , doing a little " cheater 5 " , on one of the rights , felt quite nice ...the wing seemed to be doing some kind of funky 'stabiliser' thing [for want of a better description / word ].

 

 I 'may' try them in the 9'4 tomorrow , as the swell is predicted to drop even FURTHER , before ?"possibly rising on sunday arvo into monday" ?  ....we shall see , we shall SEE !...

 

I'm kinda hesitant to put them in the mal and ride them in tiny waves  because , as I said previously , when I test fins , I like  putting them in shorter boards and with small[er] back fin[s] , so I can test / feel out more, what the TWO SIDE FINS are doing .

 

...see what tomorrow brings , eh ?

 

  I'll try to get on it early , and as I 'could' definately  have caught heaps more waves on the 9'4 this morning , I 'may' be 'forced' to "do the mal", tomorrow ....[I'd much rather have the wave and paddle power to allow / enable me to whack them in the 5'8 bushfire fish , though , really !]

 

  cheers !

 

  ben

small [but shapely] surf early on ...

[this is this morning's surf cam shot , taken 7am ish , about when I hit the water ]

 

 Well,

 [as expected in a board with 9'+ of rail ] , I couldn't feel the fins' effects nearly as much , TODAY...

 

this was the setup used early this morning ...9'4 x 23" x  3 1/8 " Cooloola mal  [the back fin , in the fcs finbox adaptor , is a 'GS' template ...the "  G10 " material one]

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 Among a heap of lefts , I got five waist high righthanders , where the straight 'speed trim line' felt really nice [as it does on my mal , with ANY fin[s] I have ridden , in the past !]

 

 There were FOUR of us , all on mals , all sitting on the one bank this morning [they all followed me ... :(  ]

 ..... EMPTY beach for miles , all around , too , at 7am ....  tra la la la la la la .....[SHEEPLE  , eh ?!  ha ! ].

Anyways , I still got my share , and had FUN , too, as I tend to do ! ....

 

the other upside ? ...

 

  one of them , Ron [ who I haven't seen out here since last winter ] ,

 

  gave me a go on his D-finned homemade "pig" ..... I'd always wanted to ride one ! 

  Although , at 10'4 and 17kgs , flat nosed , and a lot more tail rockered , it was not exactly what I'm used to !  Plus , with no legrope , it was a case of "get outta the waaaay everyone , here comes the battering ram " . It was 3 1/2" thick [felt like that on the rail , too ?!] 

  ....It WAS fun to try something different , though !

 After he had ridden a couple of waves on my mal , I flipped it over , to show him the fins . (Wish I'd had the camera there , to capture his expression ....classsiccc  !  : )   )

back to the winged fins ...

 At least , if nothing else , I am feeling the effects of board's rail lengths on fins too, trying these different boards , with the same sideys ! 

....and ...Daz said he "would eventually give them a go " in his little boards , once he has ridden the boards a bit longer , maybe I can get to photo / ?film? them in action ?

Rowan [apparently] was on the beach with his camera , one day this week , [unknown to me] and he reckoned that he 'got a shot of me , on a left ' ??  [...we shall see , eh ?]

 

   yeeehaaaawwww !

 

  ben

 

p.s. - the swell is 'predicted' to rise again , some time during the coming days / week , with a few offshores thrown in , too, so I hope I can go with SHORTER boards [MUCH shorter !]  , to REALLY be able to feel the wavefins much more ...

I’m pretty good at getting the inside ankle edge of my heel into the tips of my regular fins. Especially on quads. Those sound awesome, but ufck. Between the reef, and kooks in the summer here I dont need any more scrapes. I’d love to try em if you get any to Oahu though. Ill just be careful with my feet

Ok, I’ve got a ride report, the moment you’ve all been waiting for …

I have to tell you that I haven’t communicated with MrWavefin to manipulate any opinions, I notice his reference to Thomas Edison’s well known statement that it took over 10,000 experiments to figure out how to make a lightbulb. I’m assuming MrWavefin understands the concept of conception, growth and development to maturity. He obviously realizes that by giving the fins to a few people “he doesn’t know,” that they have a responsibility to readers and the readers will get a genuine critique, that will help develop a range of viable fins and give the tester credibilty for their honesty. So criticism is of value to aid in that development of a range of sellable fins, not a personal sling at his design abilities.

(His next post will probably read something like this. malaroo, send the fins back, Your Fired!)

I flew the flying saucer down to the coast under the cover if darkness. Swell size according to windguru website 1.2 metres, Low tide 6.20am .20 (very low) essential for small waves at my spot of choice. Waves were very sucky over a rocky point, not much room for error on take off. By the way, the thread, (“Anyone interested in a new fin design” posted by Bill Thraillkill) has hilarious references to foil hats remote controls and blue bags over the fins with gold ties, I did away with all that … after all the batteries were flat in remote for the foil hat. (might as well have been Lead Lined) (thankyou Mr Curry thankyou!)

Testing these wavefins on this session was done on a belly board, (page 5 pf this thread, the green super concave pictured with the wings pointing to the bottom of the board) don’t laugh about the bellyboard, its surfed similar to when I ride a stand up board, same principals. Unlike a boogie.

1st Wave, sunrise, no-one out, waves about as high as the roof racks on your car.

Paddle take off look down the wave, stare at rocks, see (in my mind) the bottom turn I have to make or land on rocks, pull a turn that pushes the tail out for drive and nose in. Tail slips a tiny bit, (not spin out) no drive, wipe out, Wave passes, I sit on rocks, dumbfounded! With normal FCS fins that wouldn’t happen. It doesn’t happen.

MrWavefin previously spoke about a board not spinning out, Thats a bit different to what I experienced here, in my case, it was a lack of a desired response after a slow drop on takeoff and then a sudden whip sideways in the pocket of the wave to try and get drive out of the fins.

Paddle out, think, think, Plan to take off more across wave, like on a longer board.

2nd wave, Take off, take off becomes too critical, only way out is the same whip, It ends with same result. On the “rock lounge.”

3rd wave, Take off, looking further away from critical zone to bottom turn, turn, no problems, then get this incredible boost going up out of the turn. WTF? never ever have I experienced that type of a boost out of a turn. It came when I didn’t expect it. With normal fins you get a thrust during the turn, this was as I came up the wave face. Then I turned trimmed down and picked a “race the wall line”. The board picked up speed and became very solid. So it lost its looseness, to do rail to rail turns, (but I didn’t need to do rail to rail turns, the turbo boost was switched on and I was flying). I had to break it out of this “track”, to do a cutty, First turn, OK, second turn OK, Pull out, again this boost upwards. (I’d like to say I did a backflip somersault, but I didn’t)

Question 1 ***** MrWavefin, if the thinness of the stem of the fins there to aid in the breaking out of the speed track to do turns?

Paddle out, thinking, thinking. The boost comes when the board is not turning side ways but turning up or down. (So I thought)

3rd Wave

Critical take off, back on the rocks.

Paddle out, thinking thinking? What happens if I try rail to rail.

4th wave

Critical take off, hold an “aim down the line” direction. make it, try rail to rail, absolutely no drive, waves passes me, trying rail to rail boosts, while white water on my back (normally like wind on a sail) Hmmmmm … too much lack of response, (slight slipping) Bail out before “getting rocked” (back on the rock lounge)

Paddle out, thinking, thinking … Down the line surfing, where you surf lines as if on a long board that rockets along without pumping, just choose your lines well and go for critical placement on the wave.

5th wave

Forgot the plan, surfed with a few rail to rail pushes that didn’t get a response, got a boost going from top to bottom, (the other way, not climbing this time) without turning.

6th wave

Take off, stayed high in the wave, aimed like a mal, gentle turn down, the turbo boost kicks in gentle turn up, turbo boost kicks in, race a wall with gentle turns up and down, its a rocket. Its a f****** rocket!

SO THATS WHERE THE FINS COME TO LIFE. PICK A LINE AND PLACE YOURSELF IN THE ZONE. ITS LIKE SOMEONE FLICKS A SWITCH AND YOUR HANGING ON FOR THE RIDE OF YOUR LIFE!

The rest of the session was doing that … For me? That’s not my style, but I know many who surf that way. These fins would really put a smile on their face. Its a surfing style that doesn’t require working the board rail to rail, but chooses placement and lines as the means of riding the wave.

Well that’s my opinion, I’m sure now that I have said that, MrChipper and Surfoils, will say I must be on drugs and they found the opposite … I can only tell it as I see it. I apologize to those who see it different to me but, but I will listen intently to what they have to say.

Also, big waves, different story, plenty of speed from the word go.

My recommendations to MrWavefin

Another model (another $5,000)

I don’t know if it will work, and I don’t know if MrWavefin has already tried it or something like this, its just what I would like to try.

  1. Normal fin shape. Typical FCS Sunny Garcia type of shape, or G3’s, or GAM’s etc.

  2. Flat on the inside, (like all side fins)

  3. Same wings, same method of attachment.

  4. Rear fin to have wings either side, maybe sliding slot method, to be able to flip them over.(or take out he fold and have them fixed?

If Mr Wavefin lets me? …

Question 2 ***** MrWavefin, Can I (will you let me) modify the fins I have, to the above description (free of charge ofcourse),

Question 3 *****MrWavefin, do you know what bonds to the substance the fins are made out of? epoxy? fibreglass?

i just learned to sit a bit further forward. okay on a longer board , I guess ...

 

q:

 

  were you bellyboarding , then , malaroo ?

ANSWER ***** MALA WAS BELLYBOARDING

 

  cheers for your feedback

 

  the wave …

 

  a left or a right ? 

ANSWER ***** RIGHT

 

  your board [s]

 

 how long / wide / thick …the rocker , and bottom and tail shapes ?

ANSWER ***** 3’9"LONG X 21+1/2"WIDE X 2+1/2"THICK .the rocker SUCH A DEEP CONCAVE, I DON’T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER and bottom A CONCAVE THAT TAKES OUT HALF OF THE BOARDS THICKNESS and tail shape ROUNDTAIL

 

 do you stand up or lie down on them , mainly ?ANSWER ***** LIE DOWN

 

 the fins …

 

  1. were the ’ wings’ pointing upwards , or downwards , when you rode them ?ANSWER ***** POINTING UPWARDS TO THE SKY OR THE BOTTOM OF THE BOARD, ITS THAT GREEN BOARD, SHOULD BE AT THE END OF THIS POST.

 

  1. parallel to the board’s bottom , or angled ?  up or down ?  ANSWER ***** PARRALELL

 

  1. try flipping them over , to see if the winged part on the INSIDE[S] does it for you , perhaps ANSWER **** DIDN’T TRY

 

the waves …

 

try them in a head high beachie too , perhaps ? ANSWER ***** NOT YESTERDAY, BUT BEACHIES COULD BE GOOD.

 

[plenty of good ones of THOSE  , south of ‘beerfan’  country [and BEFORE !]

 

last question [for now , because my rocket is waiting for liftoff] …

 

YOUR SPACESHIP …

 

…have you got any PHOTOS , please ?

 

[ I’d like to see how it compares to Mr. Squiggle’s ?]

 

   cheers , matey ! ANSWER ****** I RECKON A GOOD GRAPHIC ARTIST COULD PROBABLY COME UP WITH A PIC, WISH SOMEONE WOULD … ITS DIFFERENT TO MR SQUIGLES

 

  ben

 

p.s. -

 

okay …ONE more question then … because I know how much people like [ignoring] my questions !..

 

 is there any chance you could copy and paste this ride review of yours , to the 'wavefins test ride thread ’ too , please , mala ? ANSWER ***** YOU KNOW, I DIDN’T EVEN REALIZE THAT EXISTED, SO I BETTER HAVE A LOOK RIGHT NOW … FEEL LIKE A KIDS THATS  THOUGHT HE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT DID HIS HOMEWORK WHERE AS OTHERS HAVE BEEN DOING IT JUST LIKE THE TEACHER SAID … SORRY ABOUT THAT!

 


an open mind is the best kind

 

http://bchipper.blogspot.com.au/

 

 


Great report Mal, Im so keen to match that report with my own findings. The fins sound like a lot of fun.

yes , cheers mala , detail and specifics are always helpful , hopefully to wavefins' research too ??

 

is it the photo , or does that back fin look a lot bigger than the wavefins , mate ?

 

  cheers

 

  ben

The back fin is pretty big.

firstly , these are just my thoughts ... [take it or leave it , as you deem fit ?]

 

 so , 'Malaroo' ....

 

1.  a longer / ? narrower / ? thinner ? board , a pinnier tail , 4-5" nose rocker , 2" tail rocker

 

2. smaller back fin [a M.R. TX , a G1000 , a GS  template ?]

 

3. medium tide , ? slightly bigger swell there ?  , so you don't end up in "the lounge " [ as you call it ?!]

 

4. also try one of the brilliant beachies in the vicinity [?bendy? for example?]

 

 5. wings pointed downwards , but still parallel to hull [so THAT remains the same !]

 

  6. ? standing up ?  [  what is the shortest of your standup boards , that you could confidently test them in ?

 

  I ask , because ...

  'surffoils' Brett  will also be bellyboarding [?!] his !

 

  So I'm hoping , 'knowaloha' , that the board you posted a partial shot [of the wavefins] , is a STANDUP [no not 's.u.p.' !]  board , yes ??

 

  Mal , I'm surmising that the dynamics , body weight distribution , balance point[s] , centre of gravity [call them what you will...I'm a SURFER , not a scientist !] , will be different lying down than standing up.

 

  maybe , as a 'meet halfway'-type  thing , we could have a kneeboarder or two from sways [? and , maybe,  some windsurfers , and kitesurfers?] test some 'wavefins' ,  too, to see how the wavefins go ...at different speeds , and in much different equipment ?

 

  just my thoughts ...

 

  wavefin mark ,

 

  are you here , mate ?

 

 .... I'd LOVE to hear MORE from you , please ?

 

  cheers

 

  ben

firstly , these are just my thoughts … [take it or leave it , as you deem fit ?]

 

 so , ‘Malaroo’ …

 

  1.  a longer / ? narrower / ? thinner ? board , a pinnier tail , 4-5" nose rocker , 2" tail rocker

ANSWER FROM MALA … HMMM I DONT KNOW?

 

  1. smaller back fin [a M.R. TX , a G1000 , a GS  template ?]

ANSWER FROM MALA … I DONT SEE HOW THAT WOULD CHANGE THINGS, MAYBE MOR EMPHASIS ON CHOOSING LINES CAREFULLY?

 

  1. medium tide , ? slightly bigger swell there ?  , so you don’t end up in "the lounge " [ as you call it ?!]

ANSWER FROM MALA … MAKES NO DIFFERENCE

 

  1. also try one of the brilliant beachies in the vicinity [?bendy? for example?]

ANSWER FROM MALA … THAT IS IMPORTANT, BECAUSE WHERE I WENT IS QUITE SUCKY COMPARED TO BEACHIES.

 

 5. wings pointed downwards , but still parallel to hull [so THAT remains the same !]

ANSWER FROM MALA … MUST TRY THAT

 

 

  6. ? standing up ?  [  what is the shortest of your standup boards , that you could confidently test them in ?

ANSWER FROM MALA … 5’7"

 

  I ask , because …

 

  ‘surffoils’ Brett  will also be bellyboarding [?!] his !

 

  So I’m hoping , ‘knowaloha’ , that the board you posted a partial shot [of the wavefins] , is a STANDUP [no not ‘s.u.p.’ !]  board , yes ??

ANSWER FROM MALA … NOT A WHAT … WTF? … is a s(stupid).u(useles).p(paipo) board???

CAREFUL CHIPPY, LOOOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME

 

  Mal , I’m surmising that the dynamics , body weight distribution , balance point[s] , centre of gravity [call them what you will…I’m a SURFER , not a scientist !] , will be different lying down than standing up.

ANSWER FROM MALA ***** PROBABLY NOT WHAT YOU THINK, IF I RIDE A NORMAL LENGTH BOARD LYING DOWN, I’M OUT OF CONTROL. IF I RIDE A BELLYBOARD STANDING, ITS LIKE WALKING ON STILTS… BECAUSE THE BELLYBOARD HAS A SHORT ROCKER AND LYING DOWN IS  A LOW CENTRE OF GRAVITY, BELIEVE IT OR NOT ITS VERY SIMILAR TO RIDING STAND UP. THE PROBLEMS I HAD WITH LACK OF DRIVE WHEN PUSHING A TURN WILL BE THE SAME STANDING UP. THE BOOST I FOUND RISING A FALLING MIGHT NOT BE SO OBVIOUS ON A LONGER ROCKER SUCH AS A STANDUP.

 

  maybe , as a ‘meet halfway’-type  thing , we could have a kneeboarder or two from sways [? and , maybe,  some windsurfers , and kitesurfers?] test some ‘wavefins’ ,  too, to see how the wavefins go …at different speeds , and in much different equipment ?

MALA RESPONSE … I THINK YOU DESERVE A PAY RISE! DOUBLE WHAT YOU ARE GETTING NOW.

 

  just my thoughts …

 

  wavefin mark ,

 

  are you here , mate?

 

 … I’d LOVE to hear MORE from you , please ?

 

  cheers

 

  ben

 


" Yes, I’ve had a few hand jobs. Some of them right here on Swaylocks! " 

Bill Thrailkill , 

Shaper since 1958

MALA RESPONSE … YOU ARE BEING VERY VERY NAUGHTY MR CHIPPER

firstly , thanks mate for making the effort / taking the time to answer my questions ...a rarity here !

 

" 2. smaller back fin [a M.R. TX , a G1000 , a GS  template ?]

ANSWER FROM MALA ... I DONT SEE HOW THAT WOULD CHANGE THINGS....<snip>  "

 

 

a smaller back fin

 

[or .... NO back fin , even...] ,

 

  and you /  I will TRULY be testing what THE WAVEFINS  do , not what a thruster does.

 

" 6. ? standing up ?  [  what is the shortest of your standup boards , that you could confidently test them in ?

ANSWER FROM MALA .... 5'7"   "

 

when you are feeling better [? stronger / fitter ?] , WILL  you please ride them in that , STANDING up ?  [HAVE you ridden that board, standing up , much , at the right you mentioned ? ]

 When / if the 'Wavefins' are put in a board with a shorter rail line , ridden STANDING up , on a wave with push , and tiny  [ or even no ??] back fin ... 

...then , hopefully , we will really KNOW what the 'Wavefins' can and can't do , hopefully .

 

  I am hoping to do the same , at some stage in the coming week(s) ...it's looking as though this week 'may' offer some opportunities , depending on the fronts we are experiencing at the moment ....

 

    cheers !

      ben