Hello everyone, I have considered asking the shops near me but have no confidence in their opinions or knowledge. I am a lover of old and have been trying to shape boards close to the late 60’s models/transitional sometimes etc. I was shooting for a con minipin-ish, karma/meth…maybe I should just stop there. What I got in the bay I was happy with however don’t think I was ready for. I have included some pics for your perusal…What did I make and why doesn’t it work?
Dims - 17.5 nose 22.5 width 2" back of center and a 15" tail. full displacement hull and I am not sure if my 50/50 rails are as advertised but oh well. I ran a 8.5 L-flex for the last 3 sessions everywhere in the box and still, it either pivots, bounces like crazy on the drop, or slides out.
Today I just dropped in a 10" 4A all the way up in the box to see if this works.the fin way back did nothing but make me want to quit surfing. Am I just surfing it wrong, or did I just make a 8’2" potbellied pig, thinking it should be something else?
Search the forum for con auction find. There you will find pictutres of my Con CC Mini Pin. One thing i will say is that both the wide point and the thickest point of the board are way back near the tail. I forget the numbers but I think I put the dimentions in that thread.
What are the rocker numbers like at either end? Singles usually have really low tail rockers. Also, flex fins have their limits - they’re usually better in the small stuff.
The hull guys are notorious for taking bondo to the bottoms of their boards to find the right amount of edge for the tail and such. You might get an opportunity to follow in their footsteps.
It would be helpful to have a good image of the outline and the rocker with the profile. A clean shot looking at the board perpendicular to the deck, and a shot from the side from the middle inline with the rails will help to identify any shape anomalies. I tend to have more edge on my rails earlier than your board has. I’m not a fan of rolled bottoms in the tail. I think you need to be a really good shaper to make the rolled bottom work. When I did it I usually ended up slowing the board down.
Looks like a pretty nice board to me. Likely even a ‘keeper’ once you get the feel for it.
You described it nicely but didn’t describe the waves in which you tried it. I say keep riding it, play with the fin(s) - both position and shape of various fins. Maybe add a set of sidebite boxes and sidebites along with a smaller center fin(?)
I have a hunch that there’s a nice ride in there somewhere. Sometimes it’s a matter of finding out where the ‘buttons’ are and getting it in some good waves.
Is this your first rolled bottom ? I surfed alot of flat bottom longboards and found the roll quite tricky to begin with. Took me a good few months to really get the feel for it. Now I dont think ill go back to flat bottoms. From that first pic I think you could for a more subtle roll and transition into a vee through the last third. I seem to like about 1/2 an inch of bottom roll nose to center and 1/2inch vee in the tail. Nose rocker around 2 7/8 with tail at 2 1/4 so quite flat overall and not really for noseriding more just enjoying the cruise. I dont put edge in the tail and they hold in much nicer.
Looks like a nice board. I bet if change your foot placement and ride the board more forward then you are used to it will ride great. Sounds like water time will cure most of your problems with it.
Wow Mako, youre so right. The few pics I saw didn’t really show that. god, I love that board. So this morning i ran the 10" fin up in the box in some punchier beach break. The surf wasn’t great but I think i found a better starting point at least. The board seems to want to surf way bigger than it is. Once you get through the first drive and find the middle, she sure wants to do something. more time is def. needed.
You guys are awesome, and again, thanks for your time.
I’ve not ridden my CC MiniPin yet. I’ve got a couple more days of work to do on it when I get a chance. The wide point would actually be between your feet when your standing on it. The fin is also well forward.
Hey mako, i’d love to hear how that thing goes. I may have put my box a bit too far back. Anyway, if you can remember, pm me when its done and you surf it. Im interested in hearing what the original is like. Also, would love to know where the trailing edge of your fin is. Happy holidays
Sorry Grasshopper, I was referring to setting the 10" fin in the back end of the box. It didn’t turn at all unless I was right on the pin. At which point it just sank, I was being dramatic. haha
Even thought she had side bites it would let go on steeped faced waves, generally saving my like AKA Herbie move” instead of pearl dive on a ten footer!
Also they want to climb up the face.
Note my fin placement glassed it in as I ran out of fin box.
