This is something that came up in a different thread that needs its own…
When, as in how long does it take to give an object soul?
Time is fleeting, it will never be now again, therefore what difference does it make if you take all day, all month or all year to make a board? Isn’t it all the same if you are conscious of what you’re doing? And, isn’t it the human touch that gives all great art works - music, drawings etc - their soul?
thanks,
Probably should be in diff. thread. but, I am dont disagree that some can get intimate on the first date, but it takes a special something to do that. I think that if a board has soul, you will be able to feel it out in the water. then you know the shaper has that special something. I know my board has soul, because during shaping, some glass bubbled up, i misdrilled one of the FCS plug holes, and it has some paint that runs. Its not perfect but it has character. I think of it like an overweight, one eyed, peg-leg girlfriend… that I still love unconditionally. lol
I know my board has soul, because during shaping, some glass bubbled up, i misdrilled one of the FCS plug holes, and it has some paint that runs. Its not perfect but it has character. I think of it like an overweight, one eyed, peg-leg girlfriend… that I still love unconditionally. lol
If that’s all it takes for a board to have soul then I’m down. I got tons of soul, haha. But really, having a board with soul doesn’t mean anything specific. The board doesn’t have to have resin tints or use an old outline or for that matter follow anyone else’s definition of soul. I think every board has some soul. (To answer the actual question) When does a surfboard get soul? When you realize it does. This may be the first time you wax up a new board or it might be after a great session. You might even be sitting on your board waiting for a set and realize it. Best way to find out, go out there and ride it. Have fun on your soul search.
Well, since soul is a dialectic fashioning of “our” own desire to label something and therefore be able to express to others what we are feeling, I think that a board has “soul” when you as the thinking person feels free or liberated or joyous when riding it.
Fashion is the intithesis of style.
come on you guys…
don’t prophetize the equipment…
it’s just a surfboard, something to have fun with, nothing more.
to make more of it than that might mean you’all are spending more time here than what’s good for you…
Like Chipper said get your butt in the water and ride something, anything or just bodysurf.
just enjoy the ride
There’s more soul in one good ride than there will ever be in a single surfboard…
i believe that soul enters the board during the laminating process.
therefore i am against post-hotcoat abortions.
I’m not sure surfboards do have soul. BUT, in the old way, I think they have Manna. A gifted surfer may draw some of the Manna from the board during certain rides, on certain waves, on certain days. The result is a highly spiritual experience, for the rider, and the observer.
how can a synthetic object made with toxic materials have soul?
proly when folklore or media tells you it does…
not into the board soul thing…but the act of surfing can have soul…or at least feels really natural
Howzit meecrafty, I always felt that the fact that I put my heart and soul into making boards was the beginning of it.Aloha,Kokua
it’s just a surfboard, something to have fun with, nothing more.
to make more of it than that might mean you’all are spending more time here than what’s good for you…
…or I’m spending too much time in my Existentialism class and not enough time in the water.
im kinda with ya on that one kokua…
its definitely nice to feel ‘crafty’
but otoh, like onelua said its just a surfboard…
seems like this issue comes up from time to time…
thats it for me on this one, im out…
Soul can be spiritual depth: evidence of spiritual or emotional depth and sensitivity, either in a person or in something created by a person
“Though technically perfect, the drawing lacked soul.”
My boards always seem to take on a personality all their own. For example, I just finished an epoxy 5’11. modeled after CJ and DamO’s boards. The board fought me throughout its creation. Finboxes were finicky, the epoxy nearly overheated while sanding for some reason, and I began to glass the deck when I realized that i had yet to install the leash plug. (I use the Ofishl kind that get lam-ed in) When all was said and done, I took a step back to admire her, and she clear dove off the rack, resulting in a nice ding along about 16 inches of the rail…I am not sure how it even happened. So I reglassed the area, filled and sanded, and finally get her in the water yesterday. On my first few waves, the board was constantly struggling against me. It was as if the board was angry that I had brought it into existance…all my fears were amplified during those first few waves…is the rocker off? Is it too narrow in the nose? etc. But after a few waves, she settled down and I scored some great rides. So I guess what I am saying, is that any board that is hand shaped and crafted, glassed, etc. has a soul and personality of its own, IMHO. It depends on what you put into it I guess…and I think it develops a soul during its creation. It goes from a pile of materials, to an object that is very lifelike, when on a wave. Basically, I guess me and my board are a team!
I think you are correct Bill. I have a masters degree in Anthropology/Archaeology form SDSU so I speak from somewhat of an informed background. Traditionally, there are many cultures that believe that objects can be embedded with spiritual power (or Mana). The word originates in Polynesian religon, and its modern use is a result of the popularization of the concept by anthropology and, to a great extent, by certain varieties of fantasy fiction. In Polynesian culture (e.g.,Hawaiian, Maori ), mana is analogous to respect, but it combines elements of respect authority, power, and prestige. To have mana is to have influence and authority. This property is not limited to persons—peoples, governments, places, and inanimate objects can possess mana. The word mana is also found in Norse mythology, and it is at least in part to this source that we owe its modern use. However, in Norse mythology, mana was restricted to the vital life-essence of all that was good; i.e., love, harmony, etc. It was believed to be the source tapped into to perform white magic.
The magic of mana was embedded into all talismans and fetishes, whether devoted to aincent gods,Catholic Saint Relics , the spirits of the ancestors , or the underlying element that makes up the universe and all life within it. The concept of mana has been used in various cultures to justify human sacrifices, as the lives or blood of sacrificial victims might contain supernatural powers whose offering would please a deity.
Whew…So then, can a surfboard have soul or when does it get soul. if you believe the Polynesians who invented the thing (surfboard and mana), it has it from the moment it is made. The question then is not when but how much soul. It’s like John Lee Hooker (A 1960’s Bing Nose Rider) vs. Barry Manilow (A 2003 Bic Epoxy). Sure they can both have soul but you know damn well just by looking at them which has the most. It’s like this used fineline corseair surfboard I just bought cheap on the ebay. I thought at first that I just bought a 9’4" beater for travel but when I got the board in my shaping room to fix her up I was amazed out how much potential the board had and could not wait to get it fixed up nice and back in the line up. It just radiated a good vibe. That is mana. That is soul, and you just know when a boards got it.
surfboard gets soul right after you pay ($) the balance due!
duuuuude… thats waaaaay coool
one time my board talked to me… yep… it said “move my fin up, move my fin up”
and I did.
and it worked…
IT was RIGHT !
My boards are nothing but mirrors that reflect my own soul.
" one time my board talked to me. yep…
it said “Move my fin forward, move my fin forward”
and I did and it was RIGHT ! "
and then the nurse tapped me on the houlder and said "darren , we are confiscating that board , we think you’re seeing waaay to much of it lately . Oh , and by the way , we’re switching you over to the YELLOW tablets now , take these twice a day , and hopefully you won’t have any more board talking episodes.
Boy, aren’t nurses GREAT eh ?
cecil
thats only half of it… when we got back to the beach I gave it a big hug, waxed its deck and took its leash off.
It was so happy after that
My shoe has a sole.