I’ve heard hemp oil is a viable substitute.
And with the right variety made into resin, the fumes would possibly be more tollerable than polyester.
I love hemp resin, the fumes are the best part, though it can be used for cooking brownies too. The only reason to make it into a surfboard would be to get through customs though.
i remember when dion resin was $3.oo a gallon
oil doesnt just come outa da ground in a pipe
it is bioengineered by kukui trees and coconut trees
the techno smoke and mirrors corperate cartels
have had civilization snowed for some time
thr refining processes for large scale plant source
refining.are surely no far cry from crud oil refining
complete with bi-products,buy products?
a the petro-chemicals run thin alternatives
will become appealing enough to attract attention
for investment and use
the guy in the neighboorhood who planted the albeziatrees
now has a choking amount of tall stuff growing in old abandoned cane fields!
imagine if he planted and harvested Kukui nuts?
or if the coco tree trimming factions started processing
there wouldnt be a coconut left behind
or a kukui nut floating at the waimea rivermouth…
the future is laid out before us like a jeweled carpet
and it aint necessarily complicated with nano machines
and techno diploma dreams
how bout a home process
for making a vegetable source
waterproof sealant
using a common catalyst
derived from ash
and dog excrement
and sea water?
would that be a laugh…
…ambrose…
fill up a truck with manure
stick a fuse in it
call it a barbeque or
a… W M D …lets choose or future
applied quantum philosophy?
we are victims of our own dreams
Ride me 'o Lord…
What if the dream is to get EVERYONE shaping and surfing? WAKE UP!!!
I can picture the California Canal Throughway Water Wave Transportation System. We just need mass to create the waves, how bout all those (future) empty supertankers? - lift em out of the water ten feet, drop em, and dude, we could surf the entire state! Out of workers could paddle gramma and grampa into a wave in one of them surf canoes, to their destination, why not? WE’VE BEEN SOLD A CROCK. There are as many solutions as there are stars in the universe. The poly/epoxy arguemnent is only a temporary exercise that is letting us flex our thinking muscles. Doesn’t it seem like there is an acceleration present? Sure the vested interests will come forward into the vacuum of the deflated soulless placekeepers… The prayer has been laid down and reiterated, so that like a Philip Glass composition, the repetition will become the new language inspiration for the quantum leapers, and we will recognize it this time, cause we is the simple folk - the surfers at the heart and soul core.
We can figure out the materials for a “green” surfboard, that’ll be easy, once we kill off the aggressive mind warp mass abusers. There are simple answers to complex questions, and new ways to look at the same old same old, just stop taking your Ritalin long enough to get creative. Sometimes the only answer is to ride the whale off the beach.
Back into the cave…
Until recently, the most important question concerning Ritalin or Amphetamine administration has not been asked. Do these drugs make a difference in the long-term outcome of the minimal brain dysfunction? A comprehensive examination of this subject carried out at the Montreal Children’s Hospital discovered a startling fact. At the end of five years, hyperkinetic children who received drugs (either Ritalin or Chloropromazine) did not differ significantly from children who had not received. Although it appeared that hyperactive kids treated with Ritalin were initially more manageable, the degree of improvement and emotional adjustment was essentially identical at the end of five years to that seen in a group of kids who had received no medication at all.
Parents might want to consider another approach.
fliers during wwII were introduced to meth
their decendants rule the world
sink the tankers
latch’em down,fill em with air let em bob up
maybe make the air tanks out of gossamer
space-man metal cloth membrane
the Up feature alternative eliminates the need for thhe heavy dropping thing
I cognized that whilst reading yer post…
mornings are great for insight…
…ambrose…
Oh great…
The DOWN/UP debate…
400 posts later we can move on to the surf wax content debate.
Turn off the computers and the TV. ADD is a response to fast information, an adaptation to future human requirements. Schools are way behind.
Up and down are the same thing,sans gravity. So, have a good laugh.
No plants, man made or otherwise, no nanos, just start with a single strand of DNA, nurture with care.
Take the cell from Dog’s leavings, or the mass quantities of chicken shit and feathers under my lemon tree, happily donated to the cause.
Technology can be natural.
If only I coulda salvaged the wood from my old shake roof that fled to the dump in the big can. How many surfboards or human habitats from the reroofs on this island alone this year?
Oil was bioengineered millions of years ago, way deep. Were there Kukui trees around then? If so, they are part of the sludge. Dinosaur revolution is way overdue. There is a limited supply. We will run out. I look forward to that day with hope for change. Paid $3.07 today for regular. Katrina is just another excuse. Tragedy favors opportunists.
On the other hand, surf after work last night was loads of fun.
Is there no middle ground in which to sleep and dream good dreams?
no debate .
when youre right ,youre right.
…right…
…left?
No plants, man made or otherwise, no nanos, just start with a single strand of DNA, nurture with care.
Take the cell from Dog’s leavings, or the mass quantities of chicken shit and feathers under my lemon tree, happily donated to the cause.
Technology can be natural.
Isn’t that what gave us politicians?
Gentically engineered crystalline biostructures. Living surfboards, capable of self-regeneration and shape-shifting.
Actually a rather elegant definition of bodysurfing…
Quote:No plants, man made or otherwise, no nanos, just start with a single strand of DNA, nurture with care.
Take the cell from Dog’s leavings, or the mass quantities of chicken shit and feathers under my lemon tree, happily donated to the cause.
Technology can be natural.
Isn’t that what gave us politicians?
Dammit, Nels -must you always write these things when I have a fresh coffee? I mean, low-consumption LCD screen or no, it does make a mess… doc…
only the strong will survive…get back to the basics…hemp oil contains no THC if i reAlly had to say thatif only the gov./right could read that…when oil is gone most all will perish…food?rotting away to quick to eat atleast fresh… MSG prices will sore…save all your bags now…ice? no fridge…no was to get coal to the plant…to make energy. we are all phucked if that ever happens bot as keith pointed out it wont…look up peak oil production.scary china like oil now too…alot like we americans do…
well im surprised greg hasnt chipped in …
guess hes been busy …
quote from a recent eco doc source …
[=1]
[ 3]“Epoxies are made through a reaction of bisphenol A and epicholorhydrin . There are no solvents emitted during it’s manufacture and it can be made from virtually any hydrocarbon including vegetable oils. [/]
so nothing to worry about …
some of us will still be using our favourite resin …
regards
BERT[/]
well im surprised greg hasnt chipped in …
guess hes been busy …
quote from a recent eco doc source …
[=1]
Quote:[ 3]“Epoxies are made through a reaction of bisphenol A and epicholorhydrin . There are no solvents emitted during it’s manufacture and it can be made from virtually any hydrocarbon including vegetable oils. [/]
so nothing to worry about …
some of us will still be using our favourite resin …
regards
BERT[/]
He went on a trip somwhere, dont remember exactly where but last time I talked to him 2 days ago he was packing up to catch a plane.
"… a fart car… "
" Well , excuse me …
…aaaahhhhhh…THAT’S better !! "
(…is this YOUR car , " fartblast lardy arse ?" )
There you have it .
This photo (and the accompanying comments) clearly illustrates two things…
Josh’s call of “juvenile” fits me like a glove (thanks for leaving out the “delinquent” bit , by the way , buddy !)
ben chipper would never be considered for moderatorship ( well , there’s nothing MODERATE about THAT photo really , is there ?)
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yea i know how busy greg has been , hes on his way down here …
we will be busy for a few days , then were going surfing …
hes on his way to the sunny gold coast …
regards
BERT
yea i know how busy greg has been , hes on his way down here …
we will be busy for a few days , then were going surfing …
hes on his way to the sunny gold coast …
regards
BERT
Oh yeah now i remember him saying that.
Howdy Bert and crew who care about quality of life on earth in the future,
Bert’s right about vegetable oil based epoxies. They already exist for the coating industry, and they’ll be coming eventually to good old fashioned lam. epoxies. I’ve been using thousands of pounds of Nylon11 for many years now. It is made from castor beans which can grow all over the world, but Brazil and India are the leading farmers of it. Nylon11 is super tough with some of the best balanced properties of all thermoplastics.
Also some might not know that Rudolph Diesel invented his engines in Deutchland in the late 1800’s and they were intended andoriginally ran on vegetable oil. He used rapeseed oil. Then the petro-tycoon came along and changed that…black gold! Farmers could’ve been and soon will be in power positions.
I run my Ford F250 Powerstroke truck on 100% soy and Wendy’s grease biodiesel right now and also have a performance chip that nets an extra 30%h.p. and 3-5 miles per gallon. The engine runs WAY smoother and quieter than with petro. The future can be bright!
Love, Delbert Pumpernickel
Several years ago I had put a post on Surfinfo on how the Amish surfers would be the most sought after shapers. Using only hand tools to make the finest black walnut boards, gunstock checkering traction patterns on the deck. In the early fall loading up these prized creations into the horse drawn buggies for the long trip down to Florida from Ohio and Pennsylvania. They have survived without the MODERN convienances during the oil boom years, now to take a lesson from them
The incidence of autism has been ramping up exponentially in US society. The Amish, who make their own clothes, furniture, and houses, have autism rates comparable to those of US society 30 or 40 years ago.
Oil was bioengineered millions of years ago, way deep. Were there Kukui trees around then? If so, they are part of the sludge. Dinosaur revolution is way overdue. There is a limited supply. We will run out.
There are alternative theories on oil that claim that it is not from organic degregation but it is constantly being generated within the earth in an inorganic process (this explains why some oil fields have refilled, instead of running empty). Here’s a brief article and you can google for more.
