hey pal the last thread got locked prbly you eh be a good little boy and piss off the internet is not the place to pull someone down
**now f##k off,
**
Obviously some correspondents are illiterate, thats too bad.
Once it degenerates into name calling, and pathetic verbal abuse,its game over for them!
No doubt your buttons have been pushed beyond your ability to deal with matters maturely, and sensibly.
The issue is Dale Solomonson's business reputation.
moderators please send this crap to the bin
Far from ''pulling Dale down'', my comments are specifically related to the many paid up customers who have not received their mat[s].
Dale MUST honour his business commitment, either refund these paid up customers, or build their mat[s] within a reasonable timeframe by way of negotiating, communicating with these customers.
All the hysterical abuse, does nothing to resolving the issue.
tell me if I am wrong.
If one would give their real identity over to the
compassionate elite society of neumatic affectionados
comonly known as CESONA
might the hypothetical window
of doubt thrown open to the cold and desperate winds
of uncertainty and fear be displaced by warmth
and comraderie ?
Chaining yourself with anonymity
to the electric chair of abuse by the
Ha Ha You Missed It Another Day Of Perfection Mat Surfing
Out The Back Yaw Baby Whoo Club.
often refered to as
HHYMIADOPMSOTBYBWC
is simply not productive.
With this kind of angst involved in
the mat process when you do indeed get
a mat it will surely be a tainted entity.
John mellor’s offer was an eloquent and knowledgeable solution.
perhaps ypu will be happier with a 4gf,a red back or some such.
The delivery,communication issues you claim to value so dearly
are not supported by your name not given stance.I indeed remember
in the recent past my friend run fronting his spare mat to a hardship
like this…
the CESONA though not a formal organ
can and have demonstrated their willingness
to blindly support the greater dale.
…ambrose…
when all else fails
laying flat, face down on the floor
screaming and kicking your feet
will get the greatest effect - bang for the
proverbial emotional buck,believe me I
do it all the time.It works especially well
in large shopping malls.
But don’t even think of wearing a mask
when you do that passersby don’t intervene.
…ambrose…
This issue is entirely with yourself Mr ablokeimsosorryimet,
As you don’t have the patience to wait for the neumatic you ordered. A Google search on the issue would have shown you that there is a wait. Dale’s business is modest and his products are carefully crafted. Neumatic is not a multinational coorporation and your dollars will not buy loving care. Surf mats are a simple pleasure and Neumatics require a little more modesty and compassion to ride than other mats. When you finally get one:
'With this kind of angst involved in
the process it will surely be a tainted entity.’
Plenty of eloquence here!
Juan
How dreadfully wrong the fan club of Neumatic mat surfers are…
I am well acquainted with Neumatic surf mats, so no bias there.
I am advocating for ALL those frustrated paid up customers, and I personally know a few , myself included who have exceeded their patience with waiting, many excess of 12 months.
To suggest I am hiding behind my anonimity, is plain wrong.
Obviously all Dale’s supporters, and cheer squad are incensed that one so brazen as myself , dare question, query the issue?
If I am so wrong, why was this forum started?
Dale’s still pluggin’ away…
Yeah yeah,
This is the surf world not corporate Ameika that has seeped and bled into every aspect of people’s lives.
There are more people stoked and willing to wait then folks with disjointed noses up in the air.
Mellor gets my vote for the all time post on Swaylocks EVER!
Rubber ducky, you’re so fun
Promised by 6, had to wait til 1.
Slid the slide til my arms were done
George and Dale, you are my gods
Forevermore you get my nods!
How cute.
How about a reality check, surfing culture is predominantly mainstream 'corporate'.
Follow the $$$$$
Touche, to Dale and Paul for sticking to their guiding passion by designing, handcrafting surf mats!
Personal customer service is what many of us aficiondoes expect, but when things go awry, we have good reason to complain, gripe.
Dale must be accountable to all his paid up customers, right?
I’ll bet dale has it all written down
and thinks about his accountability
every single moment of every day.
To think otherwise is revealing of
a personal perspective ,and or agenda
as unrevealed as the fulfilled customer list
weekly.
we who have taken on such responsibilities
know that every moment we dedicate to
answering relentless phone and other calls
are moments Not working to filling orders.
I have known of builders of surfboards
not answering the calls of clientelle
to work on their ‘‘stuff’’
after stopping amidst
critical processes
we must all ''serve somebody ‘’
does relentless griping and cajoling
insure one’s place in the sequence of
production as first OR indeed last is anyone’s guess.
I in one instance made a point after one such
incident rushed the completion of such a board
in record time with a generic rendition rather than
a specially hand crafted ‘‘soul model’’ and forever
left the bum trip off the list of ‘preferred’
paid ain’t all of it,right?
does indictment of moral turpitude
extend it self to regarding this as
base ,vile,and depraved by “”
"“MANY OF US AFFECTIONADOS’'”
(spelling variation specifically pointed)
then we must consider the "plans of mice
and men" when they do indeed go awry
should we indeed gripe as when our bowels
are in twisted state of catharsis,or at best
should these laments be best spent outback
behind the door with the crescent moon.
for the literate,
To a Mouse, On Turning up Her Nest with a Plough
by Robert Burns (1759 - 1796)
"The best laid schemes o’ mice an’ men / Gang aft a-gley.”
An’ lea’e us nought but grief an’ pain,
For promised joy.
…ambrose…
we do indeed
feel yer pain laddie
and can ye feel indeed
the pain of dale as
comrade ?
or perhaps adversary?
such is the unfortunate
state of transaction
in this instance as well as
our culture’s present condition.
culture as grown in a petri dish,
home to virus and antidote alike.
swaylocks as a forum is just such a petri dish
Let us get this straight.
This 'forum' subject was set up specifically because Dale Solomonson had not fulfilled his obligations for building mat[s] and communicating to those paid up customers who were not advised what was going on..
Agendas - well yes,those paid up customers, myself included have endured much time hanging on, waiting, not knowing what was happening..
If that means ''personal'' , why wouldn't it, when the customer has paid up for his mat[s] and was not receiving ANY advise what was the status of their mat[s]??????
I am not interested in all the poetic license, flowery verbiage, philosophical commentary, this matter is specifically about '' Where is Dale Solomonson'' and the mat[s] he hasn't built for many paid up customers.
I do appreciate listening to all the ''defense'', but at the end of the day, some basic decency is in order by Dale in communicating to these customers, and if not why not?
In relation business priorities, well thats a business decision for that individual business person and not be a detriment of the customer.
Accountability is a matter, Dale needs to contemplate, particularly as far as his business practice is concerned, and more importantly his personal integrity when taking on these orders.
yawn, and yawn again…
Personally I prefer the poetry, philosophy and flowers any day.
I guess the original question has been answered then: Dale is at home making incredible mats.
http://hydrodynamica.blogspot.com/2009/08/neumatic-neurosis.html
Juan
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seven posts on swaylocks all at one person norman seems to have gone hmm
only one other on here with a negative veiw
**by the way im told this bloke refuses to answer dale in private why**
using the slang bloke points to aus?
using the slang bloke points to aus?seing the moderators find this thread ok lets have a party i love a good scrap
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Let us cut to the chase.
The Dale[Neumatic] fan club devotees, will not see their hero, castigated, deary me.
So why are paid up customers still asking the question - Wheres Dale Solomonson?
Obviously Dale's pinup boy, sees a need to self promote, as he is not disadvantaged in receiving mats, why not everybody else?
Fairs, fair.
Wheres is the equity in his business, personal principles?
Until this basic question is addressed by Dale, then this lingering issue will not go away.
Not many ''surfing'' issues grab me, enough to get embroiled in what many see as a petty issue.
However, personally I am effected, but the overacrching issue, is many, many others are in a similar situation.
Dale, has replied to me, and I did answer him - in the negative, because as I have said before, its his reputation & integrity that are in question.
The issue is not about me, but Dale Solomonson.
Self interest is not the motivator here for me.
To degenerate further into puerile name calling, slanging matches serves nobody any purpose, only worsens the situation..
I seek to remedy a bad situation for all those that are not Sway locks contributors, and have in good faith paid up $ for their mat[s], been largely silent, hoping their mat[s] may be built one day as agreed.
My challenge is to Dale this, show your bona fides, by contacting each individual paid up customer, who hasn't received their mat[s] and either supply them[ negotiate timeframe] or refund monies.
This whole matter has escalated and could have easily been circumvented, because Dale has not for whatever reasons offered explanations to his customers.
In am positive, that if Dale had been forthcoming, with this information, customers[myself included] would have been more than satisfied and patient.
,
Over to you Dale...
No I do not polish my chuck taylor all stars,
or my bob purcels
I think I may have washed a pair
two or three pairs ago.
…Nice loafers bluke.
…ambrose…
I’m late for work.
aaaaaasssss
for agendas my dear boy
though the darkness has befallen you
take heart…
tis a blight on the spirit we have here.
yest the best is comin’
and yet the worst we have not yet seen
these tests of good spirits
given and recieved
will get us through the worst of times
to accept our ordained fates.
maybe dog in all her mercy
will allow ya to by a dozen mats wholesale
for your friend Manny Otros.
…ambrose…
otra vez?
availiable soon
…_______…