Who said you need fins.....

I’m thinking Bunker would have loved these:

http://sharkless.com/gallery/2005/AA_Labor_Day_Canoe_Hal_boards

http://sharkless.com/gallery/2005/AA_Labor_Day_Canoe_Hale_boar

http://sharkless.com/gallery/2005/AA_Labor_Day_Can_Hal_Rein

Some videos of skilled skimboarders riding shorebreak also lead to the same question…

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Some videos of skilled skimboarders riding shorebreak also lead to the same question…

My son and other kiters frequently ride skimboards, sometimes in the surf… all it takes is an edge… and alot of skill :wink:

The boards that Bunker and his crew rode in SD, and elsewhere, had small keel fins(like many of the current kiteboards). I remember a guy in San Diego, Lee Martel, built a board that allowed him to completely retract the fin while riding. Some of these late 60’s designs seemed to be more about ‘the edges’ like skiis, snowboards, and the earliest wooden surfboards.

the bunker and the edge board guys also had fins that were removeable and were

considerably longer base 10-15 inches

proportionally thicker upwards to an inch

had micro tuning apendages

and the occasional handle was attatched to the rails.

the absence of alternative power source

power craft,propeller or jet pump

and or airborne kite

takes the efforts away from

a comonality with traditional

surfing forms.

wave riding remains unique

as a communal tapping of natural

forces with a simplified design form

with little in the way

of tech trappings that plague

the new improved

articulations of the word surfing that

continues to erode the meaning

of the word.

Now if we the people were to call this acivity

KITE FLYING ,no juice nobody would buy in

KITE TOW LIFTING,in mixed conversation would sound like holding on with the foot

there is little surf in the majority of kite venues

aerial acrobatix are the primary goal in these venues

Hang time is a noble goal for aerial afectionados

the kite boards in the attatched photos

are truly breath taking

the wood laminations

mesmerise me

I wish I could feel the surface as the water

will caress them

I look forward to the advances in kites

making it possible to construct

a farther evolution in the surf mats I am now

studying.the quest for un encumbered flight

on the surface of the shore bound natural ocean wave

is only partially explored.

…ambrose…

dora said 'real men don’t use the handle"

surely that couldn’t be true

Flat water kiteboards don’t really need fins as the way in which you ride the board means that the edge of the board in the water acts like one big fin. Most kiteboards do however have small fins and these are usually used for directional stability on landing from a jump and they also give the board more grip in the water when loading up against the kite for a jump. But the fins are used most when you go kiting in waves as you spend alot more time riding the board flat and you also need more drive from the board when travelling downwind on a wave as it is the wave driving you rather than the kite.

Cheers

KS

The boards in the photos(Reinhard’s) and skimboards are being ridden in the surf. They have a very different feel than boards with fins… very loose!.. more like the edge boards.

Many of the kites and boards being produced now are specifically for riding waves… with a handle(sorry Miklos) :wink: You can call me a puppet monkey if you like.

Yes, Bunker’s keel fins were foiled (early fish fins had no foil) keyed, wedged… pounded with rocks into his boards. Sculpted decks, thick, small, wide point forward and zip lapped rails. One of the fondest memories I have of surfing was watching Bunker(and crew) ride his ‘space vehicles’ in San Diego.

Dora on Bunker, “genetic space child”

Reinhard’s site… in case someone’s interested. http://home.hawaii.rr.com/reinhard/contact/contact.htm

There’s a video to see these boards (and Reinhard) in action.