Hi ,
Why some of the boards widest point in the middle n some of em 2" forword or 2" backward ?
What’s the different or wat’s the usage for that ?
Regards ,
A .
Wide point forward gives more drive, finer control at speed.
Middle: neutral.
Forward: emphasis on speed and drive.
Backward: emphasis on pivot and maneuverability.
Or at least, that’s what I always believed…
If i would have to buy a pin-tail mini gun size 6’7" x 18"1/4 x 2"1/4 , Where is the widest point should be ?
If a twin fin old school fish ?
Or a 6’0" short baord ?
Does it really matter where the widepoint is if you disregard stance? Or does the location of the widepoint dictate your stance?
Bert pointed out in a thread not long ago that the widepoint on a 5’10" fish with widepoint forward of center might well be at the same position with regads to the stance as a 6’6" thruster with centered or behind center widepoint.
regards,
Håvard
AnDi,
On a mini gun you could go a few inches forward of midpoint, or keep the wide point right in the center.
Old school fish is a few inches forward of center.
You can’t really compare different boards and where your stance is on each board. Your stance is relative to the board you are riding at that time. Just doesn’t really make sense to analyse it further
Drew
Rider adapts stance to fit board shape.
I’ve ridden plenty of sub 5’6" twins with WPoint well behind center, and they work great with huge fins.
Placement of WPoint only depends on preference of surfer, and his style.
On any board, from 23" discs to 10’ guns, placement of WPoint is solely based on preference of rider.
The positioning of the widest point in a surfboard affects its “pitch”. Pitch can be defined as the angle a watercraft reaches in relation to the water surface. This angle has an optimum. If too low or high, the board performance can drop a lot. The shaper must to consider the surfer’s stance in order to choose the correct positioning of the widest point. It’s important to ressault that “the widest point” doesn’t work alone. It has to be combined with all the other features in a surfboard design (rocker,foil, fin placement, etc), and the kind of environment the craft will be tested.
My brother made me a 5’8" disc-type shape with the wide point an inch or 2 aft of center. It works very well in mushy surf and pretty well up to shoulder high surf.
He calls it the FlounderFish. I’ll post a pic some time.
…with the wide point in several places, you can achieve differents outlines curves…this rely on the surfer style, stand up place, and types of waves
Like with the human body the wide point should suit the rider like a nice suit.
we might liken the fish to a double breasted coat,or afull race pintail to an asbestos formula racing jumpsuit…
the wide point ahs to be tailored to the body and the style and the occasion to be effective…
the widest point as such is adhereing to the eliptical plan shape concept common to pivot turning boards
the parrallel rail board has a wide point that runs for two to six inches along the plan shape,common to those boards that are more likely to engage the rail line exclusive of the fins …making this the widest area or perhaps zone
uummmmm wide zone ?
One third is about as far up as Ive heard justified…1969 16 7/8 the parallel spot was about 8 ‘’ long …down the line round tail 7’6’’
wide point aft of center… commitment to radical direction changes often favorable in smaller waves as these radical changes are likely to blow out at high speed…
old long boards ,pig shapes also known as Beach break models were not for bigger surf had the wide point aft…setting weight forward of wide point and fins increases the resistance of the board ti turning…putting weight over fin cluster most likely to consolidate effort and increase velocity of turn yet the holding in will be achieved by feathering weighting and unweighting…ambrose
A lot of the boards I make are big guy tri’s . That is the direction that my product has taken , On cruiser style surfers boards I usually go dead center for the wide point. shorts for the ripper 2 inches back . longs center. It is all for the rider.
why don’t you put it to the point at which you want the outline to turn?