width in relation to trim speed

Hey guy’s, I’m wondering how width and lentgh affect trim speed. I’ve been told that a wider outline (more surface area) will catch waves easier than a narrow outline; if true, does this mean that it will also trim faster than a narrower board? Also, would a wider square tail add or detract from this trimspeed compared to a narrower pintail? What I’m looking to do is shape a 10’ trim machine, something for waves up to waist high with very good shape and speed. What would achieve maximum trimspeed on this type of wave? Thanks- ryan

Hey guy’s, I’m wondering how width and lentgh affect trim speed. I’ve > been told that a wider outline (more surface area) will catch waves easier > than a narrow outline; if true, does this mean that it will also trim > faster than a narrower board? Also, would a wider square tail add or > detract from this trimspeed compared to a narrower pintail? What I’m > looking to do is shape a 10’ trim machine, something for waves up to waist > high with very good shape and speed. What would achieve maximum trimspeed > on this type of wave? Thanks- ryan yes, I’ve noticed that a round-pin 16"(12"up)tail catchs waves great, too wide you think? I’ve had overhead dry barrelrides on this board, really good noserides, and it still whip-turns. I would have never rode/shaped a board like this until I watched Kevin Connelly just killing overhead waves on this template. keep the nose rocker just under 5" tail rocker maxed out up(probably 4").

yes, I’ve noticed that a round-pin 16"(12"up)tail catchs waves > great, too wide you think? I’ve had overhead dry barrelrides on this > board, really good noserides, and it still whip-turns. I would have never > rode/shaped a board like this until I watched Kevin Connelly just killing > overhead waves on this template. keep the nose rocker just under 5" > tail rocker maxed out up(probably 4"). skip frye’s eagle tails are kinda like that aren’t they? are the rails pretty hard on the board you are describing?

skip frye’s eagle tails are kinda like that aren’t they?>>> are the rails pretty hard on the board you are describing? kevin came fron the skip neighborhood, but i think there is much more tail rocker, his boards dont have down rails in the tail, but thats ok with drop knee/reverse drop knee turning, the roundpin will litterly whip a cutback on a dime if max tail rocker is ‘included’, skips boards dont have much tail rocker hense less radical transitions in direction, more flow/glide. never seen radical surfing on a fry board. Kevins surfing is quite impressive though.

kevin came fron the skip neighborhood, but i think there is much more tail > rocker, his boards dont have down rails in the tail, but thats ok with > drop knee/reverse drop knee turning, the roundpin will litterly whip a > cutback on a dime if max tail rocker is ‘included’, skips boards dont have > much tail rocker hense less radical transitions in direction, more > flow/glide. never seen radical surfing on a fry board. Kevins surfing is > quite impressive though. thanks surfhungry. his boards are very good noseriders as well aren’t they? i don’t think skip is a very big fan of concaves but i am guessing kevin’s boards have some in the nose? am i correct or incorrect as usual?

thanks surfhungry. his boards are very good noseriders as well aren’t > they? i don’t think skip is a very big fan of concaves but i am guessing > kevin’s boards have some in the nose? am i correct or incorrect as usual? yea, that guy just plain does it all(60’s style). There is a moderate amount of nose concave, and they are glassed heavy volan which also really helps in stable noseriding and glide. That roundpin(singlefin) gives a less ‘resistant’ turn, no square tail corner to sink in on turns/cutbacks although a 7" tip squaretail is even more stable your cutback is more drawn out, but for point breaks it’s the shit.

yea, that guy just plain does it all(60’s style). There is a moderate > amount of nose concave, and they are glassed heavy volan which also really > helps in stable noseriding and glide. That roundpin(singlefin) gives a > less ‘resistant’ turn, no square tail corner to sink in on turns/cutbacks > although a 7" tip squaretail is even more stable your cutback is more > drawn out, but for point breaks it’s the shit. surfhungry: i really appreciate the fact that you share your knowledge. i am going to be out in the LA/San Diego area later this month on business (i am from NY), any chance i might get to surf with you?

I’m into the wide pin gliders myself to, the biggest I surf is a 10.7 of a Harbour clark blank, glassed with Volan, 15 tail, with a Fins unlimited DT 10.5 retro pivot type fin. If youre looking for some inspiration, check out www.cooperfishsurfboards.com There Hornets and mello yello’s a great. Peter Rijk.>>> surfhungry: i really appreciate the fact that you share your knowledge. i > am going to be out in the LA/San Diego area later this month on business > (i am from NY), any chance i might get to surf with you?