Nice shapes from Seabase. Their finboxes accept futures AND fcs too… hopefully you can glass over them, like the shapers australia ones…
Unfortunately, their choice of Epoxy resins is small, too small. no vac bag resins… just the 2000 and fast hardener.
good enough for basic board building though.
Later!
We will reintroduce 2100XF in a couple months. We had it, put it on the website, told people to try it, use it. No one did. So we dropped it for a while … thought that maybe in time people would figure out what it was for. 10 minute pot life with 45 minute set time. For T-Flex the stuff is magic. Throw it in the bag and your laminating 45 minutes later. What do you guys think? bring it back? Will someone buy it this time?
How many baggers are there are out there? Otherwise sounds likes the goods from what I know of T-Flex. Only thing that concerned me from what I saw of the WMD system (now gone unfortunately) is will we see the market flooded again only this time from local board builders? I almost wondered if the WMD system was too easy and too quick. Could it of lead to too many boards again?
all epoxy goes yellow. . anyway surfboard epoxy is a bit like buying 5 minute epoxy in 25 gram tube. premium price and small time, in the grand scale of epoxy resin. you can get industrial epoxys for as little as 6$US a liter and make a great surfboard that looks good if you paint it after. one cool store uses 5 tonnes of epoxy for a floor. surfboard epoxy business is like a ameoba on the shit of a fly. ie very small. most good resin makers have a clear epoxy. there is hundreds of them.
some are shit and some are good
polyester is a consistent product cheaper by the dozen and does the job. eps/epoxy boards are not BETTER then a poly board. and surfboard brand epoxys are no better then many boatbuilding epoxys. just different
Silly just loves to yank everyones chain, huh?
I’ve found PU/Epoxy to last longer than PU/PE. About the only thing I like about polyester is that you can UV cure it. Otherwise not for me.
One of the primary reasons we did CE. Gives everyone the choice to use epoxy on PU which is a very good combo in many conditions. Almost all the Mavericks boards are built that way. The Urethane sits in the water better on those giant faces and the strength of epoxy keeps them together better … or so I’ve been told. Oh yea, you can get the same weight with a 4/6 deck and a 6 bottom on urethane blank using epoxy as you get doing double 4 and 4 with poly. Just less resin in the fabric which equals better strength to weight.
Hi Greg,
is the CE fine to use on EPS as well?
no. i just say it how i see it. 12$nz for epoxy resin. exports of 100s of tonnes per year, most likely more. why would any resin company even bother with surfboards.and a small percentage of a small market at that. triping. and to say its better , when there are so many on the market we dont even know about, is nothing more then a marketing ploy. also polyester boards ding easier but so what. who gives a shit. we all make our own boards. make one in a day, surf it, then chuck it to a grommet and make another(they will let you know if its any good or not)… the best thing any of these composite/eps guys could do is learn how to shape and glass with polyester and get people riding there boards. and use epoxy where its relevant, like flooring
epoxys go yellow
none of this is gunna get you anymore barrel time btw
mm mmm . bright and white. easy to shape .no fucking around with wall filler. glassed in a day
and gotta love that smell.
play with epoxy resins by all means but if you want any status as a shaper . clean polys are the way to go
when you can do one clean then your ready
Yea, works great on EPS. Mostly it’s used on EPS
Silly’s been working without his respirator again …
paul good to see all that time was not wasted.
** to the cocky epoxy users come back & tell me how you feel if you get sensitised to the f##ken shit
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Do you mean cocky like “sloppy”, like not keeping it off your skin, like not washing it off quickly, like trying to save brushes with acetone, and wearing flip flops while you lam with epoxy? (OK, I wear flip flops, but I use a tray about waist high and seldom does a drop hit the plastic. It’s a matter of honor for a garage builder like me.)
But I’ll give you this: I just did my last ever epoxy resin swirl. Because RR epoxy wets out so easily it just isn’t able to keep the color separation that poly does. I give up on that.
Sorry about the wet out problem … I thought good wet out would be a good thing. Greg, got some new T-Flex tricks … easier soon and faster. The pre lam is now simpler, wayyyy. Faster resin for bagging. a new trick that solves the veneer edge … Sams trick. Some other stuff too. I’ll be posting soon. T-Flex II.
Doesn’t happen if you follow the rules. Lets not get into the toxicity thing again. It’s been written to death. Most people here know
You have to build up your immunity,I do this by drinking a shot of RR epoxy an hour or 2 before glassing.No sensitising here.
very funny
but just in case: DO NOT DO THIS!!!
still, funny.
no1 clown you best hope it dont visit you in the near future
** g l what are you saying it dont happen b##llshit
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**cocky means arrogant if the hat fits wear it**
**oh & i do take the right precautions but for me i cant be in the same room without effect.
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