Biscuit/Sperm Whale Creation

Whad up, this week i decieded im going to whip up a little small wave
sled, and I really like the demsions and thickness of the new C.I sperm
whale but I’m not really looking for a stub with a super rad squash
tail. I think I want something that is closer in demsions to the sperm
whale but with a much more biscut outline. (bigger rounded pin tail and
pulled in nose) I basically want to shape a sperm whale with a pulled in
outline and 5 fin setup. I’m a pretty decent surfer and want a fatter
smaller board that can cruize through tiny 1-2 ft surf and paddle easy
but can be put on rail easily and release off the top when the waves are
small but fun. Im about 145 lbs and really cant decide on a thickness
and a rocker proflie. I wanna go as thin as possible but I still want
this board to have some volume so I can ride some really tiny but fast
waves. Right now I came up with these demensions 5’4 x 18 7/8th x 2 3/4
(3.75" nose rocker/1.5" tail rocker) and this template that is slightly
off haha.

 

This is only my second build so any advice
would be sick (especially tips on how to get a smoother glass finish around the rails so i dont have to sand as much this time). My first board was a 5’6 little performance shortboard
but with less entry rocker and a good bit of foam through the whole
deck. (around .95 inches in the tail and .75 inches in the nose).
Anyways the board is sick, super loose, and works great but isn’t really
the small wave machine I was hoping for probably since it went so small
and only kept the thickest part around 2.25 (I dont really know how
thick it is for sure, I barely used measurements and had no template for
this board becuase I just wanted to see if I could create something
that rides)

 

Thanks in advance for any advice

 

figured out the pics

The template for the 5 fin biscuit/SW board

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My first board

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take your and make sure you like the way your board looks every step of the way, do each step correctly so the next step goes smoothly. start with a good template, your outline will be better, a good outline means easier to shape, easier to shape easier to glass, the better the lam the better the HC, good hc =  easy sand. take your time do it right the first time so you dont have to spend more time fixing it.

How old are you Rob

I’m 20 whys it matter

My Advice To You

Read everything you can find here on making templates . Then read it again.

Check out Bud’s build threads.

Cheers

Mooneemick

Rob, not sure where you are located but do you have access to a surf shop where you can go and look at surfboards made by other builders? It might help you get a better eye and feel for what clean flowing outlines should be. Feel the rails and run your hands around some boards taking note of the way the shaper distributed the volume and especially the way the nose and tail widths flow with the outline. If you are trying to make something similar to a CI Sperm Whale or Biscuit go to their website and take note of the dimensions. Watch some shaping and glassing videos, too. Post your results. Good luck!

Tis what Aliens ride, on Jupiter, no seriously you need to flow your curves more, you can do it yourself or draw around boards. Looks like you got you glassing done well though for a first timer.

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suffer mag prankster....we get it ...ha ha.....got any more oily rags to throw onto the shaping rack? The paper template is classic...or timeless?  

You could call that model the Sperm-Biscuit!!

So he’s not for real? Everyone was being nice but thats the worst board that has ever been posted!!

 

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So he's not for real? Everyone was being nice but thats the worst board that has ever been posted!!

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I'll see your sperm biscuit and raise you my fish

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Edit: cant get the pic bigger....

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haha well thanks for the input bradda. my 1st board is dope and ya its all assymetrical and has a rediculously pulled in nose becuase i made a couple mistakes with the saw but it still rides just as good as any little performace fish ive ever owned. Rocker profile is way to flat for a board like that though and i fucked up the hotcoat on the bottom of that board. But as far as I see it that first one just gave me confidence to keep making them since it works pretty well even though its not the most aesthetically pleasing thing to look at. I also built that one without a stand as the pictures show haha and in dirty ass garage. But now i made myself a stand, cleaned my garage, bought some more shit, and ill use a real 1/2 template made of the plywood instead of that stupid cardboard one. Ill post pictures along the way i should be going to buy the blank today. Anyone have an idea for a good thickness though and rocker profile for a board like this? Width a foot from the nose and a foot from the tail?

hey rob9095

try using a fishing pole to lay out your outline and cut outside the line then block sand to the line,(hi spots first)

love that needlenose on your first board, reminds me of a slotcar body from the 70's

and for God's sake dont hit anyone with that board!

Rob is a crank....Prank.....hey Rob....people are sending me pm's wanting me to prove that you are a Suffermag Prank.

Ok....look at this photo...it does not look like your oily rag surf board. You're a funny guy Rob. Thanks for the joke....

"a smile improves your face value"

 

 

So i have no clue what a suffermag prankster is and my first board wasn’t supposed to look like the sperm whale or anything really, i made it with no template. The rags have dried epoxy resin on them from glassing my first board over them not oil

 

I guess some people just look at the pictures and try to infer what the text says, I actually do it a lot too on here no worries

Hey Rob I didn't get it until I went back and re-read your initial posts - and I did read it before, but missed it somehow.  The Biscuit / Sperm Whale is what you'd like to build for your next board, the photos you posted are of your first board.  

One reason for this is that your template for your Biscuit / Sperm Whale board actually looks more like your first board than a Biscuit.  Its the nose.

BTW, if you make your template out of masonite it can be easily sanded to blend the curves.  Just make half a template, from the stringer to the rail, then use the same template for both halves - that way they'll be a perfect match.

If I understand what Ray is saying, he suspects your are from another forum (http://forum.surfermag.com/forum/), and posting here in jest.

So im glad thats cleared up and im sorry my first post was probably super confusing. The first board was really a cheap experiment to see what i could do with minimal tools, it was never meant to look like any of the channel islands boards.

 

anyways for the 2nd board i made a new template out of plywood and cut the blank and started trueing it up. how thick should i leave it at the nose at tail? any good ideas for the rails?

 

[img_assist|nid=1066685|title=bis2|desc=|link=none|align=left|width=468|height=640]

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Title says something about a whale...photos do not reflect title...

" My first board was a 5'6 little performance shortboard but with less entry rocker and a good bit of foam through the whole deck. (around .95 inches in the tail and .75 inches in the nose). Anyways the board is sick, super loose, and works great but isn't really the small wave machine I was hoping for probably since it went so small and only kept the thickest part around 2.25 (I dont really know how thick it is for sure, I barely used measurements and had no template for this board becuase I just wanted to see if I could create something that rides)

Thanks in advance for any advice"

You want advice? Dump the surf speak rapper ghetto talk.....Your first board is "sick" but not in the way you claim.

Someday you will have to sit down for a job interview....I see through your BS......are you ready for that real job? I'm really happy you cleaned up the workshop.......:)