Bollocks on the Family Tree

Industry Talk
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Otay,

Nice last words…Uh Huh. I have enjoyed hijack and promotion of Surf Tech and continued reminder that all thats holy in surfing is 80,000 a year. I think my original post rings true to the bone. There surfing and then there is the business of surfing. Not the same thing at all.

In the modified words of Peter Garrett:

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There’ll be food on the table tonight

There’ll be pay in your pocket tonight

My gut is wrenched out it is crunched up and broken

My life that is lived is no more than a token

Who’ll strike the flint upon the stone and tell me why?

If I yell out at night there’s a reply of blue silence

The screen is no comfort I can’t speak my sentence

They blew the lights at heaven’s gate and I don’t know why

Chorus

But if I work all day on the Surf Tech mine

(There’ll be food on the table tonight)

Still I walk up and down on the Surf Tech mine

(There’ll be pay in your pocket tonight)

The candy store paupers lie to the shareholders

They’re crossing their fingers they pay the truth makers

The balance sheet is breaking up the sky

So I’m caught at the junction still waiting for medicine

The sweat of my brow keeps on feeding the engine

Hope the crumbs in my pocket can keep me for another night

And if the Surf Tech mining company won’t come to my rescue

If the epoxy refining company won’t save me

Who’s gonna save me?

Chorus

And some have sailed from a distant shore

And the company takes what the company wants

And nothing’s as precious

As a shaping bay in Thailand

Who’s gonna save me?

I pray that sense and reason brings us in

Who’s gonna save me?

We’ve got nothing to fear

In the end the rain comes down

Washes clean the streets of a Surf Tech town

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Yeah, very true. Is it hard to look at your buddy steve in the eye now that he is a boardworks chap? that’s the question I have to such a concerned individual as you seem to be.

Wow those modified lyrics, you think about this stuff way too much. I would be thinking more about my children and how fast they can grow in 1 years time if I were you. You are a very lucky man indeed.

I would like to write more but the shaping room calls.

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"Sorry OTAY (whoever you are) but please give it a rest. "

Listen basswave(whoever you are) but please give it a rest.

I personally am not interested in doing business with you. I have not drawn the short straw so I will not be in Orlando. We sell surfboards in Hawaii and the pacific rim. New Hampshire is not a market we need nor care to exploit.

I am not trying to convince you to ride anything. But I like to call bs whenever I see it. Based on your personal experience the DI surftech is crap because you say so??? Now this applys to anyone else that uses this board too? Anyone can buy a campbell bros, beal, rawson and have a totally differnet appreciation of those than you. Example…I tried a rawson gun at sunset and it was so sweet on the late takeoffs and you say…my rawson looks great hanging on the wall because I never have the surf in my area to use it. It’s also easy to dust. We both like the board but for different reasons.

You are set in your likes and dislikes, so to convince you to ride one of our boards would be like begging for sex or trying to convince steve perry to get a haircut.

I don’t make boards to meet tommyboys expectations but to our standard we set. Life is great, surf is great, full work load until may then rest and more surf. And the icing on the cake is a new DI surftech in the immediate future!!!

I suggest you give it a rest and have a wonderful time in orlando trying to sell whatever it is you sell. Sorry you picked the short straw.

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Yeah, very true. Is it hard to look at your buddy steve in the eye now that he is a boardworks chap? that’s the question I have to such a concerned individual as you seem to be. Not really concerned at all…I actually had a hand in helping him get involved. As I said…this is not an anti popout thread. I have already written my share on that. I have a pro popout thread coming just for you. As for being concerned…Ha Ha…I stand by my original post about institutions and false advertising…not Surftech as a business model or Randy French as the most important man in surfing that sells 80,000 surfboards a year.

Wow those modified lyrics, you think about this stuff way too much. I would be thinking more about my children and how fast they can grow in 1 years time if I were you. You are a very lucky man indeed. Yeah…I bet thats what your thinking about …I counted…19 post on this thread for solosurfer (Mostly responding to Otay). 19 post for Otay…and it’s a thread I started. So…whose thinking about their kids growing up or not…? I couldn’t pass on the Midnight Oil song…I thought is was a bit funny…not as serious as you obviously take.

I would like to write more but the shaping room calls. See above post Mr. I have to leave the thread but can’t resist taking more jabs and trying to stir up more crap. You quit adding much to the conversation along time ago. You continue to bait and look for a fight. I am having fun on this and again I enjoy writing about ideas. It’s a passtime. If you have something to add on the subject of institutions of Surfing and false advertising…the by all means add to it… if not…continue on with your Surf tech babble. I am all for freedom of expression.

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I personally am not interested in doing business with you. I have not drawn the short straw so I will not be in Orlando. We sell surfboards in Hawaii and the pacific rim. New Hampshire is not a market we need nor care to exploit. I love your use of the word …“exploit”.

But I like to call bs whenever I see it. I bet you don’t have too many mirrors in your home. Based on your personal experience the DI surftech is crap because you say so??? Same as you thinking DI Surftech is great and because they sell 80,000 a year.

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Thats what I thought

I called you on it

Gave you the chace to prove yourself and you then you change your tune and back out.

Sorry OTAY but I’m not chrushed you don’t want to do biz with me.

Mr OTAY please continue on your quest to turn surfing into the same market as Bicycles, Skiing, or whatever truly else that’s truly generic. BTW: I don’t live in NH but please continue to do your reseach on me.

To quote you

“I don’t make boards to meet tommyboys expectations but to our standard we set. Life is great, surf is great, full work load until may then rest and more surf. And the icing on the cake is a new DI surftech in the immediate future!!!”

So your saying that a 9’0" is in the works? Which sounds like more proof that your paycheck says s-tch on it.

Why don’t show a little more aloha and take this off the public forum.

I told you to PM me if you have an issue with what I have to say…but I know you wont.

Good luck on your endeavors

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I’d love for this thread to die a natural death, but that does not seem in the cards. I have a request; Will someone blatantly violate the OT or Personal Attack rule so I can lock this puppy up and we can all start the new year in style?

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Lock LOCK LOCK LOCK.

LOCK lock lock please lock

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Rocky theme plays…the crowd begins to chant a familiar slogan…faint at first and then becomes louder…then louder still until it’s clear what they are saying…not Rocky Rocky Rocky…but…Lock it …lock it…Lock it!

ha ha…no need to lock it…I am done… the point has been made and challenged…each side has had their say…time to move on.

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Does this work?

OTAY is a dickhead!!!

My work here is done.

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Wanklow…

Have you been drinking again or are you down on the b12 level?

take your own advice…

Do some b12 like a good wanklow to help metabolize the excess glucose form the wine intake.

go to surfer.com and ask more intelligent questions about BT.

If Benny is out there is wanklow’s comment slander? The fruit of an envious heart I guess. Don’t BT me on that other site though. I can answer most historical Randy French trivia on him being the most influental total package board builder ever. Also the most visionary board builder having brought the most surfing fun to the most people in the past decade. I smartly salute RF once again!!!

Also, does solosurfer shape, glass, sand, or just broker and sell??? Depending in the answer I have a theory regarding his angst.

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If Benny is out there is wanklow’s comment slander? The fruit of an envious heart I guess. Don’t BT me on that other site though. I can answer most historical Randy French trivia on him being the most influental total package board builder ever. Also the most visionary board builder having brought the most surfing fun to the most people in the past decade. I smartly salute RF once again!!!

Also, does solosurfer shape, glass, sand, or just broker and sell??? Depending in the answer I have a theory regarding his angst.

You sure there is not something more between old Randy French and you that meets the eye Otay? It seems like a love affair of a sort…or a severe crush at least.

As for angst…I have no angst against Randy French. I will answer your question…I don’t shape…but I owned half a combination surfboard factory and surfshop. Been around the industry close to 30 years. I can’t remember discussing the details of shaping though…It it a qualification to discuss ideas? Are you going to start in with the “I’m a shaper your not worthy to discuss board design bit” Quit trolling for a fight. Hearing your theory will be quite interesting though…kind of like your board shrine in the room thing. That was a good one.

I am working on a pro Surftech post just for you.

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Happy? Thanks for reaffirming my low expectations of some of you…