The dcell goes on the rails right after the button is pushed.
last time I saw the innards of surftech, I saw no dcell… I just saw paper thin veneer, a layer of fiberglass and big cell low density eps…
it was a “velzy” model…
Velzy wood veneer? You saw right. If you ever have a once in a lifetime opportunity to see the extremely rare broken tuflight innards you will see what I describe.
The push of a button and the hissing sound reminds me of the cobra strike… again and again and again.
Boards not just for friends and family, but for all. From the pickiest to most laid back customer. Consistent quality speaks for itself.
Lots of missing info on the specifics of wooden rails. Pre skin, post skin ,simultaneous pull??? When the train reaches the Bert B’s information depot let us know. When it leaves the station I will need to have my ticket checked twice cuz the plan was to get beyond BB info depot and not just circle around it.
I will be in the swaylock’s lounge getting an info infusion in the meantime.
The push of a button and the hissing sound reminds me of the cobra strike… again and again and again.
LOL!
How appropriate, is that why they called it Cobra?
But for all your disdain for compsanders, Otay, you have yet to show us a board you made??!!
Oh, wait, lemme guess, we’ve seen loads of them… you push that button, day in day out… again and again and again… do you make funny faces and Michael Jackson sounds when you push the button?
shamona
weeheeee
hey harvard, there have been some great suggestions about breaking the thread into multiple threads on each section of the process, as well as filtering out the info that is surplus(such as ppls posts that do not necessarily give build info).this is all great advice and part of the reason it is an ongoing work in progress, the aim is to have a great thread that can grow into something useful and easy to use for the first timer with input from everybody.
Hopefully with ppl who have the info and the newbys pointing out the flaws that make it difficult to follow, we will end up with something that is extremely helpful, and gets ppl experiencing the joy of creating their own compsand and riding what they have created, with very little fuss and frustration.
i will be putting in more pictures as i get time, but i will not show how i do multiple wood rail laminations
nor my current technique
nor any information on infusion or production methods
im quite happy to make the whole forum members only btw
i do not wish to explain things in to much detail to blowins and people that dont contribute to the site
all the regulars know that they can call me anytime for explanations
if you can build one like i showed in thread and want to take it further give me a call or write me a letter with your name and address.
wrt to rails
just use the foam for rail
a strait strip, bend it with a heat gun and glue it on with tape and 5 minute epoxy
how simple can you get
balsa sucks and is a pathetic rail material, i cant believe firewire fell for it
remember this is an introduction
if you try an run off with complex thoery and ideas then you will make errors
it is very simple if you read it carefully and follow each step
permenent and adjustable rockertables are a bad idea if you are interested in production
if you want to bag 4 or 5 boards at once for example
there is no point asking any further question unless you have made the fiurst few steps of making a hotwire and setting up your pump
also there is no point deviating with too much other stuff
it is really simple
otay is one of those annoying people that only criticise people, and yet never produce anything of value
basically what we call in australia a dingbat
take a walk otay
just updated the thread btw
YAWN your posts make me sleapy
YOU DA MAN PAUL!
for the record, I am equally grateful for the generous nature of the people who have
been willing to share their secrets at all of these forums.
I wasn’t trying to be disrespectful to the crew.
i will be putting in more pictures as i get time, but i will not show how i do multiple wood rail laminations
nor my current technique
nor any information on infusion or production methods
just updated the thread btw
Where is craftee’s BS button when you need it?
I guess if you are only going to give the inferior build methods I thought you are starting where Bert left off. Where’s Bert when you need him?
Until then, in memory of the Kauai activists keeping the super ferry off their island I wanted to do the same on Oahu by keeping imported super large vessels off Oahu. Word on the street is Roy’s board is arriving on pier 17, so lets meet there with our signs and chain saws to stop the imported large vessel influx in America. Help keep our surf breaks safe and say no to royboard.
well otay i can see why you would want me and the compsand guys to fail
if ,as you say are involved in big offshore production, to have a bunch of backyarders building superior boards to you must be pretty shameful, after all your gloating.
with all due repect for bert, his thread was awsome, but i actually learnt the hands on of this stuff of people far more qualified.
the simple method of heating a straight strip of foam for the rail and bending it, is far superior to berts shown method of cutting the rocker in
i get about twices as many rails per sheet which halves the cost of the perimeter stringer.
so builders would have saved many thousands of dollars if they used this OBVIOUS method at the beggining
thats just one of the many better ways i have shown to build these boards
and of course theres a lot more refinements and methods, but as this thread is for begginers , it will remain simple
if anyone want to progress past this point they can alway phone me
its cool afoaf
it does take a lot of time and money
i work 2 jobs and support my family on a meager income and the boards have only really started to pay for themselves.
my isp has capped my bandwidth and storage as well
we are a busy site, with costs escalating and paid for by a few original members
over the next few months i will upload some more pictures and we can branch of into discussions about wood etc
some of these threads already exist and will be members only information
im also thinking of making membership, name and addres varified to deter trolls
it takes me longer to document the process then it does to make a board
i think that the other contributors to the thread are all valid btw
if you follow my information you will save a few grand trying to figure it for yourself
and of course Huie has been making shortboards since around 1966, so anything he suggests is right on the money
you can see one of his early short boards in the 1967 film “Hot Generation”
well otay i can see why you would want me and the compsand guys to failif ,as you say are involved in big offshore production, to have a bunch of backyarders building superior boards to you must be pretty shameful, after all your gloating.
with all due repect for bert, his thread was awsome, but i actually learnt the hands on of this stuff of people far more qualified.
the simple method of heating a straight strip of foam for the rail and bending it, is far superior to berts shown method of cutting the rocker in
i get about twices as many rails per sheet which halves the cost of the perimeter stringer.
so builders would have saved many thousands of dollars if they used this OBVIOUS method at the beggining
thats just one of the many better ways i have shown to build these boards
and of course theres a lot more refinements and methods, but as this thread is for begginers , it will remain simple
if anyone want to progress past this point they can alway phone me
Wow, perfect example how a little information in the wrong hands can be dangerous. Your method of skimping by heating and bending your “parboiled” foam rails makes your mouse trap sprung. At the molecular level, heating and bending your foam rails gives it less reflex action than a rail cut to the rocker.
Yeah, Bert’s thread is still awesome.
I looked up the movie you referenced “hot genitalia” and which short boards were you talking about? I had two long boards in a motrin commercial in 1996. does that count for anything??
hi otay i dont belive thats true, manufacturers specs says that its ideal for thermoforming
but youd know more than then the manufacturer of airex
anyway not that i really care whos board is superior
every dude with a shaping bay makes the same claims LOL 
its not relevent to home builders sharing stoke
all that flex esoterics is just the kinda bull that everyone ran with after berts post
making something as simple as a composite panel into something complicated
anyway a 3mm strip of cedar on the inside of the whole deal, shows balsa rail for the dead horse it truly is
keep bumping it dude
its all good