Anybody out there dipping FCS plugs in MEKP? What are your experiences and thoughts. Is it necessary?
Thanks, Tripper
WTF - that sounds absurd -
Where’d you ever get the idea?
warning
f##ing whith that stuff your not gona be whith us for long
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some guys wipe with acetone (NOT MEKP, which is catalyst) before installing. Or just scuff with sandpaper.
tooltripper,
The first FCS plugs (solid black) were supposed to be wiped with acetone before installing to remove residue from where they were molded. The next generation ones (Smoke, Blue, and Red) do not need to be cleaned before installing. In fact acetone, Mekp etc will probably mess them up. There’s an even newer version called the X2 and I believe it doesn’t get the wipe down either.
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And if you do use acetone - on the black plugs - they warn to ONLY wipe the outside to remove the mold release agent (and sanding after helps too) and NEVER dip them.
Wait until you see where I got such an idea. Have a look at this off of the FCS site. http://www.surffcs.com/X-2.swf
Thought it was a bit kooky, but you never know.
Thanks, Tripper
Sorry, once it opens click on the little arrow to go to the next page of “about”
Says 60% stronger when dipped in MEKP.
man that bit of advice from f c s is gona make them liable
for every health claim made against them
p s for your benifit
just rough them up whith sandpaper
bad advice fcs
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beter still use another system
they dont deserve your business?
wonder why ron hasnt gave his thoughts on this stupid bit of advice
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Perhaps FCS should add this in big red letters all around that web page: “MEKP is a strong irritant. Avoid swallowing and all contact with eyes and skin. Ingestion can be fatal! Discard contaminated clothing. Wash contaminated skin thoroughly with soap and water. If swallowed, take large quantities of milk or water and immediately call a physician. MEKP in the eye may result in irreversible blindness, even if flushed out with water! Flush the eyes immediately with water. SECONDS COUNT! Continue flushing for at least 30 minutes, and call a physician. Do not take chances with this chemical. Wear goggles, gloves, protective clothing, and a respirator, and be careful.” *
Obviously dipping anything in MEKP is risky if not plain stupid.
While we await an explanation from someone at FCS (perhaps it is a typo) do you think they meant for plugs to be dipped in something else?
In the meantime, Do the new plugs need to be acetoned or sanded? What are you guys doing to them before installation?
Mahalo, Tripper
I received the letter FCS about the new plugs and all the test results comparing wiping with acetone, mekp etc. I also thought this a bit strange. Maybe it was a typo and they ment mek, which is the same solvent used when cleaning pvc pipe before gluing. So I phoned them up. They assured me mekp is correct.
Don’t think I will be taking their advice. If I did I would be dipping the plug in the mekp not wiping with a rag. Mekp on a rag in the right conditions can cause a spontanious conbustion.
So be carefull.
I dip the original black plugs in acetone. I acidentlly dipped one of the smoke coloured ones in acetone and it cracked, then broke in two while it was in the hole filled with resin. Lucky that I herd it and was able to replace it in time. platty.
What is so bad about MKEP? What safety precautions should be made when adding it to resin?
I remember one of the first things I learned about ding repair was to keep the catalyst out of your eyes.
Perhaps they mean MEK which is used as a cleaning solvent and isn’t as dangerous as MEKP.
Those of you w/ questions about the two should google them. MEKP is really bad stuff.
aloha, ojshjs
hey obproud
i dont give a shit whether you want to f##k whith it
or drink it if you want
the fact is that when a major fin maker comes out &tells the average punter
to dip his product in m e k p is about as stupid as you can get
it seems to me fcs is being advised by a bunch of kooks
this is a dangerous practice for the user
& fc s could be legally responsible for future health problems that may arise
bottom line use some sandpaper
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Quote:
hey obproud
i dont give a shit whether you want to f##k whith it
or drink it if you want
the fact is that when a major fin maker comes out &tells the average punter
to dip his product in m e k p is about as stupid as you can get
it seems to me fcs is being advised by a bunch of kooks
this is a dangerous practice for the user
& fc s could be legally responsible for future health problems that may arise
bottom line use some sandpaper
darker than dark
Not to mention the ensuing “hot batches” of resin in the plug holes! Let’s see, keep the resin cool, so it’s a fairly slow kick, now add MEKP to the plug??? Seems like it’s liable to get crispy around there. Surely they mean MEK not MEKP.
Surely this can’t be for real???
back when I was still using poly, I would wipe the plug with a LITTLE acetone on a cloth to remove the mould release agent and rough them up with 60 grit to get a better bond.
But dipping them in anything is a bad idea. I’m so glad I don’t have to work with MEKP anymore that serious stuff. When I had it around the shop I kept it locked in a fridge covered in warning stickers.
Quote:
hey obproud
i dont give a shit whether you want to f##k whith itor drink it if you want
the fact is that when a major fin maker comes out &tells the average punter
to dip his product in m e k p is about as stupid as you can get
it seems to me fcs is being advised by a bunch of kooks
this is a dangerous practice for the user
& fc s could be legally responsible for future health problems that may arise
bottom line use some sandpaper
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My question wasn’t rhetorical. I was seriously looking for more info on the stuff. I have always been real careful with it.
Has anyone found out what the story is behind such a suggestion from someone in the FCS loop?
Mahalo, Tripper