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Just in time for Christmas, a HWS kit where “If you can build a model airplane you can build this awsome hollow balsa longboard.”
I like Paul’s kit better, take 1 fallen tree 200 years old, cut into pieces and shape…
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I like Paul’s kit better, take 1 fallen tree 200 years old, cut into pieces and shape…
Some of us erstwhile DIY-ers have limited access to 200 year old fallen trees… I kind of like the kit concept, but, of course, execution is everything. The fact that the seller’s other active auctions have nothing whatsoever to do with surfing or carpentry don’t bode too well for that aspect in my mind. I also don’t know that a bidding auction would be the best sales ploy for such a kit, if one intended to conduct an ongoing business in such. Which sort of goes back to the execution point…
-Samiam
I’m glad someone finally put something out. Its a start
Mike C of Grain has been email hyping their HWS kit for a while now but as with most things around here its been mostly all talk…
nothing like someone with the gumption to actually put something in the hands of the public to try…
To their credit both Roy and Paul have had access to their HWS plans for some time now but access to the raw materials required can be challenging for most people out there in swaysland.
I wonder if Tucker Wood Working in Laguna Beach is sending any kind of royalty check to Paul? Yeah, I know, he didn’t invent the HWS… But how much you want to bet that this operation was inspired by his work and/or website?
All that being as it may, for $100 it is actually quite the deal, and I’ll probably snatch one up if it doesn’t go much higher.
depending on the quality of the design those rails look weak…
anything under $500-$600 would be a steal since Mike C. was going to charge over $600 not including shipping for a sapeli skinned version of his fish.
That clear hollow NXXT board went for like $305 and the guy’s charging almost $700 if you want to order one from his website.
The wood skinned EPS NL guy also pulled his 5’11" fish off ebay for reserve not met when the highest bid was a little around $170 and now posted it here probably hoping for $1000 or so…
The wonders of ebay most of those ebay pros are just looking at their resell profit
You know what that’s like… no respect if the online auction market value hasn’t been set.
I think a hollow perhaps using Daniel’s technique or something similar would be an interesting challege if I didn’t have a canoe and a dragon board to finish first… Again getting access to the wood required is a challenge for any HWS builder so a kit is a really neat idea.
Everyone loves to build model kits especially one you can actually ride…
with the proper incentive someone out there could sell a complete vacuum balsa-sando-comp kit with GG and UV resin or epoxy on ebay as well. I should have a talk with CMP about this…hmmm
I have access to 200 year old fallen trees, think I could sell that on ebay? buyer responsible for shipping of course…
Aloha Oneula:
On a sidebar: If this takes off, I would consider marketing the complementary items like how-to-glass DVDs, fiberglass cloth, sand paper, tape, etc.
I was going to bid but the shipping coast to Hawaii was $72. For that kind of money, I rather spend it on a CMP Hawaii board. I know it will be strong and will work well for many years. Besides, I got my two balsa boards hanging in my living room.
Mahalo,
D
so here’s the idea for all those game.
go get some 7’6" Marko molded funboard blanks for the best price you can get from Surflight or another distributor.
put togethor enough balsa strips or bamboo veneer to cover the top and bottom but since you’re having to ship the blank you might as well build out the balsa skins with 2oz glass precut to fit the top, bottom or both. pre-enscibe the center line on the blank top and bottom as well as the top of the wood panels and premark the fin locations on the bottom wood panel and tape down marks.
Now cut out three sheets of 4oz or 6oz glass to cover the bottom in one layer and the top in two layers
include a small bottle of GG/elmers PU glue/ or 5 minute epoxy to glue on the skins to the blank
include one sheet of 60 one sheet of 80, one sheet of 150 sandpaper and one sheet of 220 wet dry paper
include a can of UV laminating and a can of UV sanding resin.
Include a set of glass on fins with some balsa/cardboard jigs to set the fin cant angles.
include precut lengths of rope for all three fins and precut glass panels for each side of each fin.
Include one squeegee 4 chip brushes, a roll of 1" green tape and one black posca pen.
Now include a precut and presealed on one end poly tube to length with double stick bag tape on the other side to seal
later and a strip of shade cloth to length with a vacuum nipple attached that’s been modified to to fit a shop vac. now cut enough plastic drip cloth to wrap the board prior to bagging
Wrap the blank, wood shells, and shade cloth in the plastic drip cloth and insert into the poly tube which has been sealed on one end. Put everything else in a box or thick plastic shipping bag. Now stick everything in a board shipping box to ship to your customer. Be sure to to include the assembly required manual.
The skin can be premade in any material or color the client wants and if not using wood the can even be prepainted with some standard designs…
So here’s the component break down that’ll need to be priced
preshaped foam blank
premarked top Skin
premarked bottom skin
small bottle of PU glue or 5 minute epoxy
sponge if using glue
bottom sheet of precut fiberglass
top sheet of precut fiberglass(2)
1 can UV lam resin
1 can UV sanding resin
1 sheet 60 grit
1 sheet 80 grit
1 sheet 150 grit
1 sheet 220 grt wet dry
1 yellow squeegee
4 chip brushes
1 roll green tape
1 razor blade
3 glass on fins
3 precut cardboard or balsa fin jigs
6 precut length of rope individually bagged in small plastic bags
12 precut pieces of fin cloth
1 glue on leach cup
1 vacuum plastic tube sealed on one end pre-taped on the other
1 strip of shade cloth
1 length of poly drip cloth to wrap
1 vacuum nipple for a shop vac
1 assembly manual
Who evers game I guess can give it a shot…
I’ll start writing the business plan and will submitt to FHB for the loan. Perhaps we can ask OHA for the money to start the business!
heheheheh,
D
PS: It just might work!
bloody hell! just buy a board and still have enough left over to take a surfing road trip with it!
Hey Oneula,
You might want to consider this badboy for your vacbag kit: The Roarockit
I read the pump is actually a wine pump?
Enjoy,
Rio
thanks…
drank that koolaid too.
got a full Roarockit kit including a bunch of extra blanks sitting here I haven’t even had the time to try out yet.
It’s what their company has done that got me inspired that you could do the same to teach people how to skin a piece of shaped foam in wood or anything else.
The concept of using vacuum bagging to apply laminates or forms as well as creating complex shapes in foam or wood using molds is a very powerful educational tool and eye opening experience for alot of people.
I’m sure someone like Daniel Hess with his background will agree that the principles this kit sold by theis company can teach you are very possible as well as very practical.
Premixed epoxy glue/resin in a bottle applied with rollers to affix multiple layers of maple hardwood fixed at offsetting angles molded over a piece of foam in a vacuum bag with resealable tape using netting tube to hold everything togethor while you use a simple wine handpump to evacuate the air is a simply amazing process to create a small piece of wood you can bang to hell jumping sidewalks and handrails throughout your neighborhood…
just think about all that for a second…
not apply that to a surfboard…
I love woodworkers
I think that’s where all the true essence of this art came from anyway…
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I’m glad someone finally put something out. Its a start
Mike C of Grain has been email hyping their HWS kit for a while now but as with most things around here its been mostly all talk…
nothing like someone with the gumption to actually put something in the hands of the public to try…
To their credit both Roy and Paul have had access to their HWS plans for some time now but access to the raw materials required can be challenging for most people out there in swaysland.
I wasn’t trying to portray this as a “bad thing”, however… You have yourself posted your take on the minimum business requirements for anyone entering the surfboard business to have any realistic prospects for success. For the most part, I agree with those posts. The eBay seller doesn’t seem to meet any of them…
-Samiam
well… I had the high bid in on this for a while but got outbid… was going to build it and do a review/writeup for the Sways crowd as to the kit quality, design, etc. I guess we’ll never know now – unless one of you guys bought it???
I was looking at it - vegged on the auction end date…
I just emailed the winner asking him/her to please let us know about the quality & experiences while building it. I pasted in the swaylocks link.
Hope to hear something too!
I got your email via ebay. I talked to brad and the guy is a bro. I will receive the kit next week . I also am a master woodworker by trade. I will be able to keep everyone updated.
Pictures Doc! Don’t forget pictures!
Cheers,
Rio
I will try to get my 11 year old to send them when i get the kit, because that is way over head.
I’m interested in seeing how this ends up too…
Is it just me or was there only one available…
Surely someone didn’t go to all that trouble with the CNC just for one…