First try 3d futuristic fin box

Hello, the file is from pacocrayon on thingiverse, i used standard PLA filament and standard slicer setings from creality software, also i printed it from bottom to top

Not 100 per cent hapy with the result.

i am looking for knowledge on.

1- type of fillament for better result.

2- slicer setings

3- orientation of print

4- any wisdom is welcome.

You should go with petg .

It’s up to you to figure out the best settings , cause it will vary with type of printer , filament etc.

One thing id recommend is to use a different type of support or support with other settings to density etc. I don’t know the creality slicer .It looks like the flange is very thin and your support does not allow for a clean layer.

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this one was prototype 1

using a 0.4 nozzle do you think is best with a 0.6 nozzle ??

i printed it from bottom to top so i had a lot of hair/ cotton candy stuff under the flange. I guess that this material that was not laid dowm correctly due to lack of sustentation, i will go prototype 2 upside down and publish.

in a quest to make it happen.

i will try petg but for now i have leftover PLA.

i allready sense the PLA is not rigid enough.

cheers and good waves

…And fragile and not durable. Petg and abs are better. Why not buy molded one’s. They have good shape, right material, ended cheaper.

So Petg vs ABS what is best suited?

i guess not buying has to do with the pleasure gained from the learning curve and forcing myself to learn a bit more of the digital world 3d modeling and etc…

anyway if the ones i am making are not good quality i am not puting them on a surfboard.

cheers and good waves

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This is kind of like shooting down a $25,000 drone with a million dollar missle.

The decision for abs vs petg depends on your printer . If it’s not enclosed and temperature controlled use petg. 0.4 noozle is good. The results may be better when you use dried filament or new one.

Which material is least UV sensitive?

For this kind of homemade 3D modeling project i would use a CNC router for cut in a fiber reinforced bloc. At my job we came back more and more to router after printing “disappointment”.

i guess the PLA is the less uv resistent.

Petg is basicly plastic from plastic bottles.

cheers and good waves.

I would think you would want the “most UV resistant” material that bonds well with fiberglass resin.
But I know nothing about 3D printing.

me neither, just starting to learn it.

cheers and good waves

Hi I have been printing fins for four years. Here are my observations.

Petg will snap. Ordinary pla is too flexible under about 1.2 cm depending on chord and span. Fins warp if left in car for six weeks in oz ox summer. 50 percent triangular infill is stiffer than 100 percent infill. 100percent infill is stronger though. Esun pla plus is much stronger than pla. Best strength according to tests not mine is .22mm layer height. Print your first layer at eg .3mm will help with imperfections. Print as hot as you can gives better layer adhesion. My first fins broke down snapped in water after about 18 months regardless of how much water time. Now break just when I hit sandbank or leave in car and infill and shell separate . Don’t worry about uv as fins are on bottom of board when surfing. Some of this you can translate to your box. Print it face down , hope helps. Typing on phone so staccato.

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Hello, considering your experience do you think this is the way to go or should i tweek anything?

Hi, you would be better off printing it flat, even if it’s foiled on both sides. X and y meridians are strongest, so printing it flat gives less chance of layer separation on the z axis. If you print it flat and it’s foiled on both sides the bottom side will be rough from the supports and need a quick sand. Where the fin fits into the base make that 100 percent infill also for the first centimetre of the fin above that. The rest can be 30 percent triangular infill. Make the top and bottom shell layers around 6. Make the walls about 4 ? As well. For the stl try and make the trailing edge 2 mm , you can round this off by sanding. If you feather the trailing edge on the stl it will just break, especially at the raked tip. Out of interest, for a trailing edge you can make it 2 percent of chord without causing drag. Hope that mAkes sense. Creality slicer is fine by the way. To change your infill in certain parts of the file you use insert modifier by right clicking the model in Creality print (from memory)

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A few fins, old pic from 24 , white fins in foreground are a variation on pavel speed diallers morphed a little

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nice gecko,

what i am trying to achieve is a gcode file of a standard futuristic fin that i can print anywhere.

kind of a spare tire to have arround.

cheers and good waves

@Headwax1
2% of chord thickness?
Are you talking about thickness of the fin’s trailing edge.
One of the old resident engineers (@hans ) mentioned flow separation starts before reaching the trailing edge.
Therefore he said the fins trailing edge does not need to be razor thin. I believe he said that trailing edge thickness could be something like 1/16” without creating significant drag.

BTW @arlosilva that looks like an iguana.

ok, a iguana it is.

Not very common arround my area.

Some people have them as pets.

will atempt first print tonight tommorow i post results.

cheers.

BTW @hans (Hans Robeers) is the creator of the finFoil software for designing surfboard/sailboard fins.