I am safe in saying Surfco HI has had excellent IP legal representation.
I would not hire FCS’s legal team on a bet.
But don’t make the mistake of using the same attorney as is being used by a potential partner. You need someone to independently represent YOUR rights.
The owner of SURFCO would try to steal it from you.
That I don’t know. I know him, but not very well. But I wasn’t really suggesting him as a partner anyway. Just that he had good representation and that is all. You can find the name of the firm on the suit which can be found using Google. I would not read too much between the lines I am writing.
Just trying to be of some little help.
I’ve talked to him,and he’s very similar to the rest of the more sucsseful people in the buisness here.What i have would be one of the biggest changes in board design as a aftermarket and oem product. I understood you were using him as an example and not to seek him out as a partner.
It is surf industry common knowledge he was one of the first to exactly copy the tab system for commercial exploit. It is Google obvious that he was issued a cease and desist and lost before he eventually won. That tells me something.
Not violating any rules saying that.
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hehe hacker friendly.
Please do not miss understand me. What I am pointing out is that obtaining patents is the trivial part of the technology business. Obtaining a patent is a know process. You can even do most the work your self here in the US. They have all the instructions on there website.
Taking a technology to market and making a profit is the hard part. That is my point. In my opinion it is harder than inventing/discovering the technology.
You definitely get it.
Patenting is an important part of the process. But, by no means is it the most important part. The invention is everything. Patenting complements that. As witness, over 90% of patents are worthless. And most of their inventors paid $5000+ to get them…
If you are making progress through invention, you oughta be patenting as well. If you are looking to patent squat, you will probably be wasting money.
interesting reading
To me there still seems to be a bit of a smoke screen happening
development timeframes question
in the last two years our company took an idea for a luxury 43 foot twin engine jet launch
worked with designers had the plugs cnc cut which we then made moulds for
then within 18 months we had the first two exported to america and england
Boats nine and ten are now inbuild due to be finished within two months
That was all along side our usual production schedule of other boats
So the question is, how can it take so long to develop and build surfboards
I mean a single board can not take any longer than 14 hours to build (if it takes longer you are not going to make any money)
they dont have interior fitouts electrical systems engineering multipule parts etc
So it kind of cracks me up when i read about seting up build systems
Its a honest question
mike
I think they are talking about a greenfields operation in the US. If you had to write a business plan set up a company, locate and fit out factory space, recruit and train staff including back office, go through funding process, negotiate contracts, get appropriate operating liscences inc regulatory compliance and then make a board how long would it take?
Thanks pinhead
Yes that makes sense
I guess the smoke screens are a integral part of that exercize
mike
hey sabs , when i get the time , i will give an overview if of what its taken to get this far and time frames …
so much was involved before we even got started …
if you had to set up at a new location , set up your entire business , staff , contacts , suppliers , factory fit out , but before that, you had to raise money to get it going …
trust me , not a short term project …
your project already had a base , with trained staff , infrastructure and a cash flow …
missing sway time …
regards
BERT
Hi Bert
Thanks for the reply
Im not being picky just nosey
Yep i know the problems
The dollar last year wreaked havoc with us
Ive spent the last two years trying to maintain series production flows while having fluctuating staff levels
We take up three factorys last year we had to move the entire joinery shop and saw mill so the newer boats could have the space needed
And now we are a bit like sardines in a can or three
Ramping up and ramping down then back up again in a tight time frame is diffiuclt to say the least
You could say that ive become a master of adapting to change!!
When you get more time i would be interested
Mike
The holder/inventor of a good idea/product must have enough financial resources to withstand all legal challenges.
Anything less is a waste of money.
If it is a good idea he would have NO PROBLEM getting money from backers to defend it.
Anything less is not a good idea/product.
hey sabs , when i get the time , i will give an overview if of what its taken to get this far and time frames …
so much was involved before we even got started …
if you had to set up at a new location , set up your entire business , staff , contacts , suppliers , factory fit out , but before that, you had to raise money to get it going …
trust me , not a short term project …
your project already had a base , with trained staff , infrastructure and a cash flow …
missing sway time …
regards
BERT
Hi Bert
Thanks for the reply
Im not being picky just nosey
Yep i know the problems
The dollar last year wreaked havoc with us
Ive spent the last two years trying to maintain series production flows while having fluctuating staff levels
We take up three factorys last year we had to move the entire joinery shop and saw mill so the newer boats could have the space needed
And now we are a bit like sardines in a can or three
Ramping up and ramping down then back up again in a tight time frame is diffiuclt to say the least
You could say that ive become a master of adapting to change!!
When you get more time i would be interested
Mike
The holder/inventor of a good idea/product must have enough financial resources to withstand all legal challenges.
Anything less is a waste of money.
If it is a good idea he would have NO PROBLEM getting money from backers to defend it.
Anything less is not a good idea/product.