Looking for pictures and ideas for building a bigger wave board. I'm looking to build a 7'6 Pintail. Please post pictures and feel free to include measurements as well. Thanks
A lot of people are having success with boards like Jamie is talking about, which is something to consider for an NJ big wave board. Surfding I couldn’t have said it better myself.
Mako,
Me: North Jersey Guy. 5’10", 200 lbs, 40 years old. We are fricken’ twins, yo. Surf primarily Monmouth County. We know how it gets here on the biggest/best days: square and hollow. Length is NOT your friend. I prefer to get the volume via nose width and thickness under the chest, with a high performance, step-up round pin tail. I have gravitated more toward the short/wide higher volume boards with a narrower tail, AKA Slater’s deep six and Rusty Slayer. After a bunch of experimentation, I am stoked on a 6’3"x14 9/16"n x 20 1/4" x 14 1/2"t x 2 5/8". Nose rocker 4.5"; tail rocker 2 3/16". McKee Quad setup. 2lb EPS (Greenlight) with a relatively heavy Gloss/Polish RR Kwick Kick Glass job.
But hey, that’s just me.
I hope you are planning for it to be a travel board. What kind of gun are you looking for though, old single fin Ala Lightening Bolt, a board for Pipe, a board for Ocean Beach SF?
I am expanding my quiver. I want to add a travel board for Puerto Rico and possibly Hawaii. I would also like to add a board for those few days a year of big hurricane and winter surf we get here in New Jersey.
One other board I would like to add would be something to take on the waves in this video. The video is shot at a spot not far away. I'm open to ideas for a board to help me in these conditions. 10 years ago I would have been fine in those conditions on a regular shortboard. I'm 40 now and I will admit that I am not as quick as I used to be getting into fast pitching waves like this especially when wearing a 5mil wetsuit. I'm looking for something to get in earlier in these hollow beachbreak conditions. We've had a lot of surf like this video and even a bit bigger here this winter and I am still getting my share of great waves but I am taking too many beatings and want to get in a bit earlier. Getting older is a bitch.
So I am basically looking to build two different boards for more challenging conditions. My dimentions......40 years old, 6'1" and 200 pounds My normal board is a 6'6 thruster.
Little bigger than what your looking for, this is 9' x 23" x 3 1/2" Tom
Tom,
I would value your input. I'm a South Jersey guy and I'm looking for something to take on some of the heavier beachbreaks in your back yard. Had a few epic sessions up your way the past few months. I need to build a board more suited to your waves. The boards I ride down here in Ocean City and Atlantic City just don't seem to cut it in the super fast hollow beach breaks up north. I think some on here would be very surprised at the type of waves we have here. That Sam Hammer video is a good example though.
Here’s my BK. It’s 7’2" x 18 1/2" and it can handle waves as big as I’m willing to try. These days that would be about 15 foot faces.
mako
you ride a 6ft6 shortboard, but want to get in earlier and surf barrels.
why not go just a little bigger, say 4 inches, and make the board carry you better, paddle better, surf steeper waves better?
6ft1019.52.65 ?
say a rounded tail [not a pin], wp at centre, continuous rocker, slightly thinner rails.
i dont know if you are in for the soul or for the punts, because personally i would consider a single fin pretty fun in those conditions, they are drivey too
if not, than go thruster or [mckee] quad, glass ons
my advice is what i made for myself, usually i ride a 6ft0-3, now a 6ft7, slightly wider, cause width gives a lot more volume.
this board i would not surf hawaii with though
your 7ft6 would possibly be too long for those smaller hollow barrels on the video, unless super rockered out.
you need to builda quiver!
p.s. this is my own personal view - st that i would like. how do you want to surf?
I would look at the AI M13 7’2"-7’6" for insparation.
Three 8-8 Paul Gross mini-guns…and my new 9-6 Andreini semi-gun…
Me mate Davo with my 9-3 PG North Shore semi…
Mako, for waves like the one in the video, I wouldn’t ride a 7’6" the board is so long and that barrel so tight and round that you arn’t really going to be able to surf the wave. With a board that long you are going to get in early set a line and go almost like the guys who ride longboards in anything thrown at them. I ride a 5’10" in all but the biggest NJ swells and my board for maxed out NJ is a 6’2" that is a little under a 6% increase in length. With that I can either roll in a little early or airdrop. Since you want to roll in early an 8% increase in length for you would give you something closer to 7’0" will give you a little bit more of an ability to adjust your line and fit in the wave. Keep the nose under 11.5" tail under 13.875" roundtail, baby swallow, rounded pin, miniature squash, whatever your preference is. I have no clue for rocker on a board that size.
If you were riding more open faced waves like PR and hawaii then I would say the 7’6" would work great. It is just that barrels around our parts are so square if you want to roll into them early you have to set your line and hope for the best, the 7’0" gives you ability to adjust a little bit more. Plus if the wave doesn’t open up and barrel the 7’0" is going to be much easier to do some tighter turns with.
Just my opinion you don’t have to listen to me. But since you said you are going to shape two boards, you could do the 7’0" and 7’6" and try them both and either validate me or refute my young whipper-snapper thoughts. I will let the other NJ guys weigh in with their thoughts too.
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I am expanding my quiver. I want to add a travel board for Puerto Rico and possibly Hawaii. I would also like to add a board for those few days a year of big hurricane and winter surf we get here in New Jersey.
One other board I would like to add would be something to take on the waves in this video. The video is shot at a spot not far away. I'm open to ideas for a board to help me in these conditions. 10 years ago I would have been fine in those conditions on a regular shortboard. I'm 40 now and I will admit that I am not as quick as I used to be getting into fast pitching waves like this especially when wearing a 5mil wetsuit. I'm looking for something to get in earlier in these hollow beachbreak conditions. We've had a lot of surf like this video and even a bit bigger here this winter and I am still getting my share of great waves but I am taking too many beatings and want to get in a bit earlier. Getting older is a bitch.
So I am basically looking to build two different boards for more challenging conditions. My dimentions......40 years old, 6'1" and 200 pounds My normal board is a 6'6 thruster.
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Given the above statement, and after viewing the video, I don't think a 7' 6'' board would present any problem for you, especially given your physical size. Me, I'd pass on a pintail, and go with a 5 or 6 inch square tail. I've made and ridden many pintails, and I love their look and lines. But a sq tail IS faster, and size for size will catch waves easier, so that's the direction I go.
Mako, I got to agree with Bill on the square tail, grew up surfing Manasquan up to Asbury. I'm 46 at 6' 4" 220 lbs. This has been my go to board in all conditions, big and steep to small and mushy, it's 8' x 23 1/2 x 3 1/2" . I can get in early or make late drops due to the rocker and for me digging the rail is no problem, but this is what works for me, if you ever come up this way come by and try it out, imo I think it would be a little big for you but then you could get a better idea of scaling down to a size that fits you perfect. Tom
Gun = 6’6"
7' 4" pin tail
7' 6" pin tail
Based on the responses I probably should have started two threads. I'm looking to make TWO boards.
#1 Travel board. Think medium sized Sunset Beach or Solid Wilderness PR.
#2 A board for rediculously fast throwing beachbreak barrels like the video. Tom, Manesquan Inlet is no problem on my current equipment. I'm talking about waves like Bayhead. The inlet offers a less critical takeoff. The beachbreaks I'm talking about are borderline un-ridable closeouts in the double overhead range. At head high to a couple feet overhead i manage these conditions on my regular boards. Its when the size takes that next step and the takeoff is more of a launch from under the lip that I struggle. Also keep in mind that I am wearing 5mm wetsuits in these conditions.
This picture from recent swell there gives an idea of the size and shape of what I want to ride better on board #2. I had several fun sessions in these conditions but took too many beatings in the 38* water.
I want to avoid doing this in 38* water.
Mako,
I hear you about Bay Head, the sand bar will kill you, I only get on it there at high tide, have you surfed Sea girt, Spring Lake, Belmar, Avon or Bradley Beach yet, it's a little more foregiving.
Tom