I remember hanging around the old Liddle shop many years ago in Tarzana (home of Edgar Rice Burroughs - author of Tarzan of the Apes.) I went to jr high school right around the corner.
There was a typed memo about his boards on the wall with pricing on various options and an explanation that his boards would turn once you learned how to turn, cutback once you learned to cutback, etc.
That said… most of us know now that “hull” riders are kind of like fly fishermen…
They take a basically easy activity and by introducing some purposefully bizarre equipment, turn it into some sort of esoteric feat of difficulty so they can all hang together and be smug cuz they are the only ones who learned how to do it.
You guys know who you are. Consider how far along your surfing would be today if you had just come aboard, joined the team and surfed on regular boards all these years.
“Esoteric” - Esoteric knowledge is that which is specialized or advanced in nature, available only to a narrow circle of “enlightened”, “initiated”, or highly educated people. Items pertaining to esotericism may be known as esoterica. Some interpretations of esotericism are very broad and include even unconventional and non-scientific belief systems.
ah gee john, i don’t think i want to advance my surfing skills any further along.iv’e ridden “typical” boards and personally just don’t like how they feel on the wave.honestly, all i want to do is hit the bottom, fly up into the pocket and go as fast and as far in trim as i can jonesing on the feel of the board in the wave…it’s really simple, clean surfing that feels so bitchin’. i know it’s not radical , vertical etc. but it’s all i want…keepin’ it smoooooth…
I ride all kinds of boards but there is only one that has a unique feel to it. And that, to me, is the main reason I keep coming back to hulls, if only for a session or two. I’m addicted to the feel. My surfing wouldn’t be any better or any worse from riding hulls but I would be worse for not riding them.
I really don’t give a rat’s ass what other people think about my boards or my surfing. It is what it is. But, if I can turn someone on to the feel, then I guess I’ll be happy being labeled a smug esoteric.
i feel, feel, feel, the need to peel, peel peel, down the line for a 300 hundered yard burner. not vert, no slash, no need to be a turner…go, go ,go faster further…
OK, here are some pics. Note authentic “period” sticker. This board is 7’8" X 23" X 18 1/2" X 16". The belly shown at mid point is 1 1/2" from level across stringer to rail apex.
This is Spencer Kellogg and Paul Gross’s site, seems pretty much Spencer is public face. So far the forum isn’t working or at least I can’t get in and Spencer emailed me that it needs fixing and he has been too busy w/ other work so far to get to it. BUT my new hull is finished and curing until I can get down there and pick it up. Will report…
This is Spencer Kellogg and Paul Gross’s site, seems pretty much Spencer is public face. So far the forum isn’t working or at least I can’t get in and Spencer emailed me that it needs fixing and he has been too busy w/ other work so far to get to it. BUT my new hull is finished and curing until I can get down there and pick it up. Will report…[/repl]
p.s. just reminded by Dale S that Fynn Wilson is major part of iShapes. Does a lot of the machine work.
I had a lot of fun yesterday on my 7’4" Liddle extreme pointbreaker in small (but clean and offshore) peaky windswell… Mostly drop in, bottom turn, trim a few seconds and pull out of a closeout. Still fun though.
