I couldn’t believe the big bucks that this guys hats and stuff go for. Maybe shaping is the wrong end of this business to be on? There are some pretty good sway craftsman that could probably make some great stuff like Jalian.
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Maybe shaping is the wrong end of this business to be on?
Real money is in fashion, not function. Plus you get to change the fashion twice a year or whenever the wind blows. Money farm!
I think we should do a Sway contest for art pieces ala Jalian!
What the F*&K is on that blokes head?? I have no idea who he is, but he looks like d^&khead with that thin on his head.
Exactly… I just didn’t want to be the one to say it. I knew an Aussie would come through with the unabashed truth! I love Australians! It’s art, or so called, that he sells for $500 to $1500.
Haha!!. I dont know what’s more stupid, the people who create fashion, or the people who pay stupid amounts of money for it!.
Excuse me but isn’t the words “FUTURE PRIMITIVE” the sole intellectual and copyright board name property of Roy Stewart???
Just another leech riding on Roy’s coat tails
Hey Beery
I’ve seen that Jalian bloke on a longboard video where he was the token shortboarder. He’s a pretty handy barrel rider with plenty of Indo waves under his belt. Guess he’s trying to get all tribal dude !!
Gotta say he looks like a Knob Jockey with that thing on his head.
Cheers
Mooneemick
I realize your comment was tongue in cheek.
But to clarify history, “Future Primitive” was a part of Raging Isle’s marketing, decades before Roy’s. Roy DID NOT steal my idea and I know nothing of Julian. Likely someone may have thought of “Future Primitive” long before I did.
Sometimes people think of things independently, sometimes they copy. Good ideas will have a life of their own that tries to be discovered and used. They will innocently pop up here and there or be boldly stolen when not aggressively protected. The surf industry is hopeless when it comes to protection of intellectual property. It is pretty much a backyard free for all. Stuff has been grabbed from me so many times I often don’t even bother with it anymore.
My glass shop is called “ProGlass - The Surfboard Factory” a good name I think. So, like good ideas tend to do… at least 2 glass shops I know of have later decided to use the ProGlass name and another called, The Surfboard Factory.
On Oahu, a mobile windshield repair business started using the ProGlass name and caused all kinds of confusion for us. They went out of business eventually, but I still get calls from people wanting their windshields repaired!
Life… and business in particular, is an amazing adventure of endless change and challenges. I often enjoy your posts OTAY because you challenge people to adapt to change by testing their operational paradigms to see if they are in sync with existing realities.
Wow, I never knew that history Bill. It is pretty funny knowing the 13 footer coming to town from NZ is called the future primitive, if I am not mistaken.
I might as well jump on the band wagon a and claim the following as IP:
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Past Civilized
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Retro Civilized
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Yore Sophisticated
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Long-ago short-boards
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yesteryear enlightened
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Surftech
For me, “Future Primitive” was and remains the definitive original skateboarding movie, by Powell Peralta, circa 1984 (?)
Hey Bill, that’s a good laugh, the windscreen shop…my yellowpages advert once scored me an enquiry regarding sewing machines…Wot-me-worry!!
Josh
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Aloha Josh
Sewing machines?? … oh yeah… Duh! I get it now… Speedy Needles would be a good sewing machine shop name.
Not being a skater I missed that Powell Peralta movie.
Firewire uses “Future Shapes” I used to use “Future Surf”. I’ll try to find some of the artwork. This was the other half of the Future Primitive.
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Wow, I never knew that history Bill. It is pretty funny knowing the 13 footer coming to town from NZ is called the future primitive, if I am not mistaken.No comment. Ha!!
I got too entangled that last time I commented on Roy’s boards. Frustrating too, since my mention of Roy’s unusual boards were only meant to challenge Roy’s insistence that wave power, imparted to boards, was solely from gravity. Oh well…
Will be interesting to see Roy’s board tackle some serious North Shore surf. Sending one over is a brilliant idea, cause eventually a wave will be ridden and a picture taken. No matter how many wipeouts or poorly the board may possibly work. Everyone will only remember the photo of a moment of success. Fact is, a photo on a beautiful Hawaiian day, with an unique 13’ wood board locked into a screaming drop at Pipe will be flat out spectacular.
I hope Roy’s board rips pipeline to shreds and the Pipe Boys all order duplicates of it driving a major paradigm shift and transformation of Surfing and equipment on the North Shore!
More likely… Roy’s original extravagant claims will be forgotten or modified such that some version of success will be claimed regardless of the true outcome.
In a tabloid world, exposure alone is always success enough.
I might as well jump on the band wagon a and claim the following as IP:
Past Civilized
Retro Civilized
Yore Sophisticated
Long-ago short-boards
yesteryear enlightened
Surftech
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More than likely too, is the magazine article writer’s choice of title, used to ensue some sort of interest. Stewart seemingly loved to rail on Barnfield when challenged on the name use. Maybe too this is why we don’t see Roy coming to the Pipeline to break in the line-up for himself. Maybe they could do a expression session at the PipeMasters!? Pass the hat for the rider.
I agree with the OTAY comment.
Bonga, on the outside
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Real money is in fashion, not function. Plus you get to change the fashion twice a year or whenever the wind blows. Money farm!
Hence my favorite slogan: Function not fashion. Ha Ha.
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What the F*&K is on that blokes head?? I have no idea who he is, but he looks like d^&khead with that thin on his head.
Don’t hold back! LMAO!
I read the story and its pretty cool. I personally wouldn’t wear any of the stuff he makes but it’s nice to see people living outside the norm… He’s got the typical Puna District, low cost, boonie lifestyle going on… If I was single with no kids, I’d be there too. In fact, I used to live like that… BC
Go to Nias and other islands in the Indonesian archiapelago where blood-thirsty headhunters once ruled.
Take that influence and craft a unique piece of headgear from it which showcases your individuality amongst the surfing tribe and pushes the envelope of todays cutting edge surf fashion.
Whilst giving a nod to ones own primitive past it looks to the future to show you can take the mantle as the next emperor of surfing in lands that time forgot. A brilliant melding has created the future primitive look.
Will we be seeing this fascinating foray into the upper echelons of surfing apparell (clothes) in your local surf emporium soon?
Of course I prefer the “Apocalypso” by Mel Gibson look. It’s much more core.
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Hence my favorite slogan: Function not fashion. Ha Ha
During a discussion about God-knows-what a few years ago Dale Solomonson laid this one on me:
“Fashion is fascism.”
The internet attributes it…
Style is originality; fashion is fascism.
The two are eternally and unalterably opposed. -Lester Bangs
Roy is a legend and his designs will show themselves soon enough.
I think he would have been more of a legend if he sent over a whole quiver for pipe. Like a 13’, a 13’ 4" and a 13’ 8". To think he can get away with a one board quiver for the North Shore is what destroys a potential legend in the making.