Today I laid down lines for a new 7’ 0’’ x 22’’ to an 11 inch (point to point) arc tail surfboard. I made a full size half template, using tempered masonite. And, after the template was finished I ‘‘hardened’’ the tip of the nose, and both corners of the tail, with Super Glue. the Super Glue penetrates well into the masonite, which really toughens up those vulnerable areas. This board is intended to be my summer small wave board, with a 16’’ nose, and a 17’’ tail. The board will be finned with my Twin/Single setup. the wide tail will make it easier to catch the wave, and the fin setup will allow the board to handle with the ease of a 15 inch wide tail. This board will perform well in waves from 2 feet, to probably 10 feet. Mushy to hollow. I’m looking forward to getting this thing built.
Someday, I’d love to see that template collection you have Bill.
Looking forward to seeing this new one.
Ever make fiberglass templates? 2 ply 4oz with some pigment & sun cure (or not) I keep a window pane in the corner of the shop just for these. Really easy to trim with scissors, and true up with sanding block.
So what kind of thickness, flow, rocker etc we look in’ at here Bill? Wide point forward or aft? Rail, bottom contour.?? What blank you using?? Lowel
7’7’’ A US Blanks, WP forward, thickness forward, soft low rail with tucked edge. Probably use a 2 inch high density balsa stringer, 3 x 4oz deck, single 6oz bottom. Oh, and a light sprinkle of Pixie Dust.
Hi Bill, i was reading an article the other day about Neal Purchase Jnr, he has recently been shaping boards using the twin single set up and loving it, He gave you a shout out as being one of the first guys who has been doing them for years. He loves the set up but explained that it only works well on certain board designs. Which sounded similar to the one you are describing in this thread. Cant wait to see it, if you post a pic. Cheers.
Hi Bill, i was reading an article the other day about Neal Purchase Jnr, he has recently been shaping boards using the twin single set up and loving it, He gave you a shout out as being one of the first guys who has been doing them for years. He loves the set up but explained that it only works well on certain board designs. Which sounded similar to the one you are describing in this thread. Cant wait to see it, if you post a pic. Cheers.
Hello Bill,
I am trying to visualize-pointy or fuller nose? How deep is the arc on the tail? Wishing you had a person on site to take and post pictures (and sweep the shop, get refreshments, etc…)Thanks for sharing another build.
Hi Drew,
That is an interesting templating concept, thanks.
-J
Nose is more full, similar to a classic pig nose. Arc is 3/4th inch deep, at center. At the performance level, no different than a ‘‘chopped’’ squaretail, just more visually appealing. IMO.
@FinsOUT,
My experience has been quite the opposit. I noticed that it appears he is placing his fins about 6 inches apart. I place mine on two inch centers. Hunt up the old thread, ‘‘Bill Thrailkill you owe me a new surfboard’’, the experience of changing the fin setup on an existing board is well covered in the body of that thread. The farther apart fins are, the greater the tendency to track, which will require more effort to initiate a change in direction. Having his fins farther apart probably delivers a more familiar feeling of ‘‘pushback’’ (resistance) during turns and cutbacks.
I will definately have a read Bill, its something i wouldn’t mind giving a try soon.
Thanks.
I think I read the same one, in TRACKS, where he did mention me. I’ve been posting info and photo’s of the setup, here on Swaylock’s, for close to 15 years! Hard to believe he JUST found out that I had been using the setup for quite some time, before he thought of doing it.
Nice tip about the super glue Bill, thanks
Aloha Glenno, I actually thought that tip was the jewel in my post. I’m glad you found it useful
yes, very. I just cut two masonite spin templates today and applied SG. Brilliant, Bill.
all the best
I just am excited to hear shapers still making templates.
Made another one this week.
200+ template collection.
Greg, Thanks for the ‘‘attaboy’’, It’s always nice to know that a tip is appreciated.
made 3 half templates just this week… your superglue tip is the best thing I’ve seen here in a long time! Thanks, Bill!
I have a question for you before the qustion I do want to say thanks for the superglue tip. I have a couple of fin templates and will try it out.
Here is my question Did you ever do any work for Surfboards Hawaii around 1968 or so? I just came across a transition Board with the 3 1314-T I recall you used a"T" when you were doing work at Hansons. Didn’t know if you also did some shaping at Surfboards Hawaii with Rich Price.
Artz,
The only shaping I did in 1968, was @ Hansen. I did not shape any Surfboards Hawaii until late 1970, when Surf Systems acquired SH from John Price, and his partner Gordon Leinhart. As to the ‘‘T’’ designator, perhaps Richard Templin did some moonlighting @ SH, in the off season. Richard shaped with me at Hansen, and came on board @ Surf Systems in 1969 when we started production. The Surf Systems/Surfboards Hawaii factory was located in the same bay, where the Belly Up Tavern is now.