Off Topic - Kamehameha School

Nah Kokua (shouldn’t you be resting those eyes?)

Mohica-Cummings is already in school in my nieces class…

I would hope and pray he would meld in but I hear he still thinks he god’s gift to world…

My cuz Gary Heu and Brother were at the Kauai rally, I would hope my other class mates the Kaluna’s, Costa’s,and even Dondi Ho showed up as well as PPK. Here’s some pics

The terrible sadness:

Young and old in prayer, Kupuna Frenchy Desoto(duanes’ grandma) in the wheelchair.

Our new leadership(Nainoa Thompson- the Navigator) and why the hope for the future is so great

Support even from all parts of the community

For those of you interested in trying to understand how we’re feeling as native hawaiians right or wrong in federal court, I suggest you see if you can get a hold of either these two films by Edgy Lee:

The Hawaiians – Reflecting Spirit

or

Papakolea - A Story of Hawaiian Land

they can be ordered from:

http://www.filmworkspacific.com/films.html

I’m trying to get my hands on them myself after watching Papkolea on public TV last week. It was very moving and beautiful. Edgy won an awad for it years ago…

I’m getting the Relecting Spirit film on DVD from Borders here to view

interested parties can PM me for a chance at enlightenment. I’m sure they aren’t as technical as Jim the Genius’s DVDs but never the less a chance to share some mana’o…


 Howzit oneula, Like the Haoles for Hawaiians sign, shows there is support for the cause from many sides. About a year ago Andrew Cabebe (spelling) who has been a friend for over 30 years told me I should join the Hawaiian Nation since I've always been a supporter of Hawaiian culture, but I asked him how could I since I'm not Hawaiian. He said that being Hawaiian was not a requirment to join and just tell them that he sent me. Is this possible? Aloha,Kokua

It’s true Kokua

being part of the Hawaiian Nation had/has nothing to do with bloodline. You just need to be recognized as one. I really wonder though of the purpose of these new movements. We have to find a way to make it work under todays framework not that of a dream like monarchy.

In an interesting interview Freddy Rice talks about how his kupuna disgusted with the overthrow refused to give up their Hawaiian Nationality in support of the Hawaiian people.

Being Hawaiian has nothing to do with race, it’s how you live your life. How you aloha, how you ,malama the aina and the kai…

On the same note the schools mission has nothing to do with whether your recognized as a hawiian citizen or not, but to make sure that all children who are decendants of the dying out pure blood aboriginal race are given an opportunity for success in the “modern world” through education and a christian up bringing. 1/7 or 1/10 depending on who you talk to can never get in because of the school’s size which is the travesty of the trust. Allot but not all the previous trustees and school masters were pretty much in it for their own profits taking much away from the school achieving this mission. The really poor and really needy have often been the ones cut as the school tried to cherry pick the best ones of the bunch to achieve the highest chance for success to make them look good.

There’s been alot of good programs that got trashed… Like sending educators out to the sites where they were most needed and trying to catch the kids early on before they started school. The scholarship program for Hawaiians who didn’t attend Kamehameha but needed help to pay for college is also a seldom unrecognized program.

There’s so much more the trust can do and needs to do. But there’s a great new faith with Nainoa and the new trustees and now DeeJay Mailer with her United Nations experience that the help and attention will be provided to the community as a whole. It looks like for once in their long history they finally got it togethor with the folks at the helm…

Like someone once suggested here if the schools charged the same tuition(about the same as college) as Punahou for an education at Kamehameha for non-hawaiians would there be as much interest or is it just the free ride that folks are looking for? In all honesty if the price were the same I think folks would opt to send their kids to Punahou and Iolani instead for a better education…

This all seems to be an part of a bigger organized, but behind the scenes initiative to get rid all Hawaiian-oriented benefit programs like the homesteads and OHA, so people can grab some of the money for themselves… Funny in that all the immigrants who’ve come here and just worked their way to get ahead have never felt the need to tap into someone’s else’s pocket to make it… Only those with the “Manifest Destiny” gleam of gold in there yonder hills seem to want to stake a claim for something not there’s… Like Liko Martin talks about in the movie Nihi which I suggest surfers interested in Hawaiian surfers take a look at, do the visitors ever wonder who planted the coconut tree that they so ignorantly grab the fruit from? And do they even think to bother to ask…

It’s the state job to educate the children of Hawaii and they seem to be going downhill each year at this point now thinking of lowering the bar on exams so they don’t get into trouble with the no child left behind legislation which is sad in itself…

All we can do is continue to do what we can, educate, hope and pray for understanding…

Howzit oneula, Thank you for the explaination, you have a very good grasp of the situation. You have also opened my eyes more about the Kamehameha school workings. I know there has been talk of an extension of Kamehameha school on Kauai which would be a plus for Hawaiian children on Kauai. In over 30 years on Kauai I’ve lived with Hawaiians for about 20 of them and in Sept, another of my Hawaiian friends will be moving in qith us.Aloha,Kokua

YIKES!! CMP

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According to Bill Barnfield and his spiritual beliefs, he would also say you are wrong. So ask Bill, you seem to respect him.

What!! Now your gonna drag me into, Politics, racial strife, and Religion!! There better be a God out there, cause I am gonna need all the help I can get! HA! HA!

I love Hawaiians and the Culture. But I think the real issues transcend all that has been discussed here so far. That is why there is disagreement among people here, when they are really more on track with each other than they know. These kinds of issues polarize people way to easily and for way to shallow of reasons.

No one wants any less success for Hawaiians than the Princess wanted. Yet they all fight over how to achieve it. I grew up on the edge of an Indian Reservation. I have seen the tragedy of subjugation and its effects on American Indians, Blacks in the South, Whites in the Coal Mines, Plantation workers in Hawaii and Hawaiians in their own homeland.

Whenever you subjugate people, you deprive them of their individuality and a way to freely and responsibly express it and eventually even know that they have it. This creates a kind of posttraumatic syndrome that leaves a wasteland of lost and devastated peoples, unable to find their way back. Subjugation relies on the depravation of individual rights and self esteem. Do that long enough to any group of people and what you will get is a whole race, culture or nationality that is now lacking in creative thinking, personal motivation, wisdom, common sense and abilities to compete and fend for themselves in a socially responsible way, such that they will be able to dig themselves back out even if set free of the subjugation.

Look around. This is why there are Terrorists, Gang Bangers, poverty and whole countries like North Korea, thinking they need nuclear weapons to protect themselves from phantom enemies.

Advanced cultures and civilizations, always override lesser civilizations. Sadly this generally happens in an abusive way. I am not saying this is good, just that it is reality, and is the historical record of thousands of years. Right or wrong it is how it happens. Those who don’t want this to happen must prepare themselves so that it, not only doesn’t, but can’t.

If Aliens arrived on our planet tomorrow, civilization as we know it would end. The likelihood that their more advanced culture would override ours is pretty much 100%. And we would inevitably become secondary citizens in their world. This isn’t a racial issue, a nationality issue, or a cultural one. It is about how well the underdog civilization prepares itself for this eventuality, even when they can’t see it coming. This takes tremendous leadership skills and great faith in those leaders. Because the new always overrides the old, the only thing that can prevent this is for our civilization and culture to be at parity or above the new alien one that is thrust upon us. If we could equip our people, well in advance, to know what the aliens knew and to be just as good at it as they were, we might have a fighting chance. In fact, if both sides understand this, there wouldn’t even be a fight as both will see the parity that exists and the value in cooperation and growth for everyone.

The Princess had incredible wisdom, way beyond her experience and age. Because of this, she understood the principle stated above. Her Will and Trust wasn’t so much to prevent the changes but rather by Educating the people in her culture and civilization, to bring them up to the equal of any civilization that might attempt to override hers.

Frankly, I don’t think anyone after her, really understood this and therefore, used her trust to aggressively educate, equip and train those in her culture such that, they couldn’t be displaced by any group, race or nationality. In fact, if done correctly, they would have been reasonable equals to all. Just like the USA and Canada. Or England and Australia. Or Japan and South Korea.

People have to be free. And they have to be free long enough to learn and recognize and fully enshrine the idea that……. they can do the right thing and have it all work out to their own best benefit in the long run.

It is a simple concept be very hard to follow. If they have been subjugated for too long, this truth is very hard for them to even see and the result of this is the birth of anti social behavior in an effort to “get ahead”. When this bad conduct is actually esteemed by even small groups of people, the larger culture is in big trouble. Just look around. You can see it in countries, ghettos and white trash trailer parks. It is racially inclusive and knows no national bounds. When it becomes cool to be bad as an excuse for not understanding how to choose otherwise, peoples are in big trouble.

On of my favorite quotes is…

"The whole world loves a maverick and the whole world wants the maverick

to achieve something nobler than simple rebellion."

–Kevin Patterson

We all love a rebel but there is a very fine line between the rebel hero and the rebel Villain or Victim. These roles are very fluid and it is often hard to recognize what role different people are really playing and why. If the rebel shifts to the Victim side it easily sets up a “Victim” mentality and soon a whole culture, that says “there is no hope or any other way out”, will happily endorse fighting the “man” because “the man” is holding them down. Truth at this point becomes almost irrelevant as the issue is more about being on the politically popular side, then the side that can really fix things and make them better. So even when the original subjugation ends, people will often “self subjugate” themselves and their brothers, and continue the abusive paradigm that they are most familiar with.

This then sets up a powerful polarity. With the side full of people most needing to find a way out, being the very side that culturally teaches their people in the very ways that prevents them from recognizing, that way out. And the side knowing the way out, being seen as the bad guys (the man), who are intentionally preventing others from being able to access that way out. This is a point of huge trouble in the world. And those who have made a success out of perpetuating this confusion like Arafat, aren’t about to let it change even though their “cause” is 180 degrees out of wack.

Bernice Pauahi Bishop invested her whole fortune in trying to prevent this and reverse it where it had become entrenched. She knew that it would be the ultimate downfall of her people if they weren’t at parity and began to view themselves as helpless Victims, under the “thumb of the man”. If we were to have had a chance to talk to her, one on one, I don’t think she would have wanted anyone, regardless of race, to lack in understanding of where the “way out” was. And while I am sure she would have wanted to first equip her own “Hawaiian Children” she would have never neglected any other children that needed help to find the way out.

I bow down to her wisdom and to her commitment. I am deeply saddened to see our prisons so full of Hawaiian’s struggling to find “the way out”. And it further breaks my heart that these people, often with the biggest hearts in the world, weren’t smart enough to avoid their own downfall. I don’t know all the answers and I am all for Kam School delivering quality educations to Hawaiians so that they don’t get caught on the wrong side of the polarity.

As a Christian I understand the “power of faith” that Pauahi clearly wanted to have as a major part of this transformative process. She understood the traditions of the great learning centers of the Nation, where Christian teachings were an integral and necessary part of their educational curriculums. She clearly had more in mind here than what is being implemented or realized. I don’t know how to fix that one, but without it, her goals will never be met regardless of which students they let in the school, be they only Hawaiians or not.

So Hawaiian’s are fighting over what is mostly a racial issue with huge significance to them but lending to greater polarity, while Pauahi’s Will specified even more strongly, that the teachings at the school should be DEEPLY Christian based and produce the fruits that this “faith based” educational system is capable of. It is hard to imagine in this context that she would have cared if some non-Hawaiians were also the recipients of this educational experience. So while I empathize with this current and difficult prospect of non-Hawaiians attending Kam School, I am much more troubled about the spiritual consequences of her Will not being followed.

Everything has a predatory self-interest…

Good luck on your mission.

Breathe In, Breathe Out, Repeat

Every breath has unlimited possibilities of a new life, of new challenges, of new completions, of creation. Every breath you take offers you an opportunity to do things you never thought you could do.

Why not change…

[Little Crow, From the Gathering]

Do It Now. Risk…

Life is not easy – and yet it is not a tragedy. It is a continual renewance. It’s a continual emergence. An emergence and renewal. We have the strength and the courage and the wisdom to prevail. All that it take is faith in ourselves and the willingness to risk. Just risk.

[Little Crow, From the Gathering]

Declaration

The American Indian Church hereby declares that it will not support by any means any group, agency, or individual that preaches, fosters, encourages or supports any forum or sense of racism, prejudice, bigotry, bias by gender or gender preference, or any bias by political, social or religious beliefs.

For all our relations! Mitak!

Mahalo Bill

Alot of us silent majority Hawaiian’s couldn’t agree with you more…

My brother had a long discussion with Nainoa Thompson on Kauai Saturday and he’s pretty much on the same page.

Lately the school’s pretty much been servicing most of the elite class of Hawaiians in pursuit of it’s goal to create a new generations of leaders and for it’s part has been very successful considering we have Dan Akaka, Admiral Kihune, Douglas Ing, DeeJay Mailer, Michael Chun along with Nainoa to pilot this ship. Connie Lau and Diane Plotts also bring so much to the table as trustees as well just ask those who work for their companies (ASB/HEI)…

But as you said emphasis needs to be spent on those not getting the help the ones who end up in prison or addicted or homeless. The christian part of the equation along with the cutural part is a very powerful force when dealing with native cultures like Hawaiians… Just look at the success the substance abuse program on the westside that uses culture to help Hawaiians break away from the horrors of ice.

I can see one day not to far out in the future where Kamehameha finally takes the leadership role in getting schools on every island (such Kauai and Molokai), as well as supporting immersion, charter schools and prenatal education programs to attack the problem early on and where it needs to be.

It sounds like you may have read(if not you should) Dr. Kanahele’s biography on Bernice Pauahi a truely unbelievablly beautiful but sad story of pure love and self sacrifice for the good of one’s people, of the greater good. Makes you wonder had she taken Lot’s deathbed request to assume the throne where Hawaii would be today especially with Charles Reed at her side… I read the book this weekend in commemoration of everything going on and it reaffirmed my faith in the intent of the princess’s will whether the language spelled it out explicitly or not. As long as every Hawaiian who needs help from the School and its Trust gets it I don’t think you’d find a true Hawaiian who would not want to share the opportunity. But until that happens, I think the same group will say that the help needs to go where it was intended until it is no longer needed. That should be everyone’s goal cause as Sentaor Akaka says in the movie The Hawaiians-A Relflecting Pond, a successful and vibrant Hawaiian community has so much it can do to help heal it’s surrounding communites and the world by spreading its culture of Malama the Aina the Kai and of teaching aloha…

At this point all I can do is try to help educate those unaware of our plight as a people and the need for the school to remain true to the princess’s wishes and maybe get involved in the politics of the community where I can.

So those interested in the story of our people, can PM me for a copy of what ever I can provide, as I think you’ll find it very elightening taking you to the core of what it means to be a true surfer, a true waterman. It’s amazing the deep ties of the nuances of Hawaiian culture and what we idealize as surfing culture…

I despair. If people could just get outside the boxes of politics and religion, nothing would be beyond accomplishment.

I quote the man again. “Religion and politics are obsolete. It is time for spirituality and technology.” Gandhi

No one ever wins an argument, especially when politics and religion are involved. The struggle for the Hawaiians will therefore never end if the battlefields include religion or politics. Power struggles are inherently lose-lose or win-lose situations, never win-win. For the goals to be met, it has to be win-win.

Nobody ever won a fight, since all participants sacrifice their ideals in order to try and win.

Sadness is the only thing I can feel under the circumstances. Thus, again, the tear in my eye reflects the pain in my heart simply at the existence of the struggle.

It’s a very basic dilemma. To meet their goals, each “side” believes they must engage in a struggle to prevail, and the mere act of engaging in such a struggle prevents a win-win outcome.

Court systems are inherently adversarial, and about winning. Political solutions are about power. People cannot agree on religious issues, thus so many diverse belief systems that lead to wars. There is another way. A way must be found to get beyond the diversionary conflicts, to the core of need for mutual understanding. That is the real challenge.

I’ve said my piece. I’m gone.

Aloha

Hey Bill,

You don’t seem like the secret agent Christian type so you get thrown into it by me. You are Ali’i in the surf arena to many and none respect the Kauwa likes of myself. Count it all joy I guess.

There is a fear I have for the Kamehameha situation. Those activists who want what was pre Captain Cook, versus what is now and what needs to be fixed. Princess Bernice loved the Lord and her kindness and compassion was because of one thing. Her love for the Lord.

Take the challange and go on any( and I mean any!) Hawaiian hisotical tour and you will be amazed on how the plight of today in Hawaii is all because of the missionaries. I heard one person say the missionaries brought verneral disease to the islands! Then the old standby… " the missionaries came to do good and they did very well indeed". One stab after another but the fact remains The Princess was a Christian and Her love for Christ was the power behind her intent of Bishop estate. What the trustees have done with it over the years is based on lots of other things far away from the love of Christ.

One Hawaiian language expert was telling me how the missionaries where not liquistically trained and even screwed up the Hawaiian alphabet. Can you imagine, the very ones who taught the culture how to read and write in their language did it wrong. I wonder if the isolationist attitude of the expert was fulfilled, would anyone read or write today here? What language would this expert be speaking?

But you throw in the problems with other cultures and ethnic groups and compare only for me to see that all men are kauwa in the eyes of God. Every man falls short and outcasts we all are. Like the Pricess who found freedom in Christ, so do I and all others can too. Someone stated that all Hawaiians aren’t Christians. I can assuredly say that Princess Bernice would be very happy if all people, to include Hawaiians, would know the loving grace and freedom in knowing her personal Savior Christ.

The up side down carrying Hawaiian flag group are as far away from the vision of Princess Bernice as one can get. It’s unfortunate that some of the Bishop trustees also have this up side down flag mentality. I wish the constitutional lawyers who graduated from Kamehameha would have the balls to speak out and give their trained professional opinion on this issue. Then maybe we can all get back on track with all the progams Oneula speaks about. “Kauwa” status is an equal opportunity to all regardless of race. I like the belief of Princess Bernice, that’s how I lost my Kauwa status.

I too grew up in an American Indian culture with reservations close by. The salamacan indians called me something real special. When the found out I had 4 sisters the gave me the name “boy who sits when pees”. Can’t catch a break anywhere!!

Howzit cmp,This mornings Garden Island says they aren’t letting the kid into Kamehameha. Aloha,Kokua

Hey Kokua,

Good for the school. The only problem now is gettting all the other non blooded Hawaiian’s out of there. Kind of a slap in the face to all those who attend based on back room deals, large donations and falsified heritage documents. Will they be next?? I can only hope that this type of “justice” is served up to all who attend, even the pretneders.

was not the founder of this school married to a white man(non-native)? just currious. do they build boards at this school in the traditional ways?

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Saw Edgy Lee’s documentary “Papakolea” on public TV last night…

It made me cry watching it.

For those of you here in Hawaii you should see when it’s back on again

Pretty timely with what’s going.

Tomorrow will be an interesting day, I hope it makes the national news.

Everyone can say what they want but unless you’re of Hawaiian ancestry I thinks it’s hard to understand what we’re feeling… More like a loss of hope, of a great sadness than of anger. All we can do is pray for the almighty’s guidance and mercy. But I wonder what Duke would feel or say about all this or Eddie, or Rell, or Brudda Iz.

I think if you did something like create the Kamehameha schools as a result of seeing your people disintergrate from 124,000 to 44,000 (2/3’s) in a span of just 50 years, you wouldn’t be doing it to benefit all the children. Or could it be that pretty much all the children at the time were either hawaiian or part hawaiian or at least considered Hawaiian by the royals… But also I’m pretty sure not everyone here in Hawaii at the time was considered “Hawaiian” by the royals. You either bought your way in, married your way in, or were of some important value to them to be accepted and proclaimed to be Hawaiian. Yes like CMP said it was a very heavily caste society one of the worse in all of polynesia and copying the Royalty system they saw in Europe didn’t help either…

So I think “all the children” is a bad take… All the children considered Hawaiian would be better.

And yes even today there are many non-hawaiians who live their lives far more “hawaiian” than many of the breast thumping, beer drinking, unemployed, tatooed kanaka maoli we see making a rucus in the news. People like CMP and I’m sure many others here. And Ambrose you kind of sound hawaian but I don’t understand you most of the time…

Many of us struggle everyday to lead a good life to contibute to our society and to honor the country we are a part of hoping that others will understand who we are just like our good Senator Akaka. I fear that we may soon find that it was all for naught that our demise as a nation as a culture was doomed from day one.

But in the true native hawaiian way, tomorrow many of us will gather, we will pray, we will sing the songs that honor those past, and we will cry with broken hearts knowing that soon we may be no more but a paragraph in a page in someone’s history book in mid-america…I hope some of you will show support for the mission and join us. If not say a prayer tomorrow as you sit in the lineup that something good comes out of all this.

Aloha No

Court Agrees To Rehear Kamehameha Schools Case Kamehameha Schools Scores Victory In Appeals Court

yeah he won’t get in but will probably seek some type of monetary settlement for the “damages” done.

They’ve been getting good press lately for all the community outreach programs they’ve started.

Finally the new is getting out about the “change” happening with all the new blood in the right places.

It’s a very good sign.

But I don’t know about the courts

Sadly Hawaii will no longer be soon… the bits and pieces of what sets us apart just aren’t valued by those making this place their home nowadays.

Interesting article in the Pacific Business News recently of the elimination of hugging as a local business greeting here in Hawaii. The incoming mainlanders don’t feel comfortable and the locals now can’t tell when to do it anymore so the consensus is to get rid of it altogether. Just another sign of how the culture is slowly deteriorating into becoming just like anywhere else. You lose your essence very slowly over time but eventually it’s just gone and you are homogonized

also 10 miilion gallons of raw sewage flowing in to the Ala Wai flowing right into the breaks off Waikiki and Ala Moana. Very touristy and it isn’tany better on the eastside at Kailua Beach, formerly one of the 10 best beaches in the world. The rain is causing havoc here and especially where Kokua and Ambrose are at…

Howzit oneula, And the rain just keeps falling. Read this morning that Lihue has already gotten their whole years amount of rain now and more records will be broken by the end of the month. We have been real lucky in Hanalei, most of the rain has been falling on the other side of the island, and you guys on Oahu are getting the worst of it. To much cement amd pavement and the rainhas no where’s to soak into what’s left of the soil. The fact that Kauai is much older than Oahu and has been shaped by erosion from rain makes the water run off real fast. Aloha,Kokua

Kokua, was wondering how you guys were doing over there. I heard from a friend of mine that a guy I used to know, Bruce Fehring, had his house destroyed up in your area. After 7 weeks or so of this, I was thinking that last night it only rained about an inch here in Palolo. Water here is murky as hell, but summer is coming (I think). Be well.

You can’t homogenize things.

That’s what government tries to do, standardize and package things. In some cases that is good, for sciences and measurements or for market or economics . . .

But not people. It is quoted in the Bible many times of how valuable each person is, that the early [Christian] church valued each person’s gifts.

It is wrong to homogenize people . . .

The problem is when other people try to impose their will on you. That their way is THE way. It is THE way for them. But not for you. It is wrong to discriminate people from doing things. But sometimes you have to respect other people’s wishes. If it is a Hawaiian school, then some people just have to accept it.

It’s a double standard thing: It’s like trying to force your way into Harvard if your grades come close. Nope you have to go with the rules, you have to match the criteria.

Or like job applications. Sure you fit the requirments, interviewers like you but they select someone else. Don’t see people suing or taking legal action for something that has subjectivity like that.

I think because it hovers near the border of discrimination, someone decides to fight, even though its a private school and they have their own rules. In a public school, that’s a different story. Since it is public you have to let them in no matter what.

There will always be differences. There are two ways you can deal with that: be adversarial, feel the differences will jeopardize the situation or communal realize the differences is key to conquering the situation / issues at hand.

Unfortunately, hyper-individualistic society favors adversarial . . .

But its all about balance. And you need to be very strong in your own self worth to be able to recognize the good in others.

Its alot easier not to figure out your own issues, you own self worth and blame others . …

Sometimes you have to find a compromise of both sides. Both sides give up a little, yet both gain an advantage. But both sides win. And if you can’t then maybe both need to look harder or outside for solutions.

Sure I want that board that can paddle like a 10 footer, but handle and duck dive like a kneeboard, have a drive of a thruster, yet loose like a fish, and draw lines like a bonzer, and be smooth as a single fin. Oh yeah and work for all conditions, never get dinged . . .

C’mon. Wake up and be real.

it’s about the money.

always has

always is

always will be

get a class “A” education for a bargain even subsidies for a higher education.

everyone is drooling about it

everyone is trying to get their hands in the pot.

and just like everything else here when it’s all gone, the land, the money the culture everyone will scratch their heads and say “wow! now how did that happen”. The lucky one ones will say “well at least I got mine while the getting was good”.

Goes for alot of things here shoreline fishing, crabbing, limu picking, lobsters, land to build a home on and even something as silly as a surfboard blank…

No one cares till it’s all gone or almost all gone then all those left out cry foul!

how did we let them do that!

when in essence they did it to themselves…

all that’s left is regret.

people only seem to want aloha around when it’s directed their way

they seem to forget that if you don’t feed it it dies just like everything else

This place is becoming and will become exactly what those who push the buttons want it to become

The environment will reflect their wants and needs…

The school is resigned to do what it can do while it has the time and hope and pray for the best.

but in the end as is with all things…

It’s all about the money…

Howzit hiroprotagonist, I'm trying to figure out how your reply to my post has anything to do with the Kam School problem. My post was a reply to oneula about the rain we're getting here in Hawaii. Aloha,Kokua