Howzit oneula, You have got it so right and I think the whole thing is a mess. I say keep Kamehameha School for the Hawaiians. There are so many private schools here that only rich Haoles can afford to send their kids to which a lot of Hawaiians cannot afford, unfortunately. I bet the Queen has rolled over in her grave many times since this mess started.Aloha,Kokua
The incoming mainlanders don’t feel comfortable and the locals now can’t tell when to do it anymore so the consensus is to get rid of it altogether. Just another sign of how the culture is slowly deteriorating into becoming just like anywhere else. You lose your essence very slowly over time but eventually it’s just gone and you are homogonized
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“incoming” is everywhere these days. The big money idiots, speculators, and developers don’t go away, they keep coming back for more.
You guys keep the spirit alive. Thanks!
hey, no it’s for the whole post in general, just my piece in the mix. Your post was the last so I tagged it on there. I hope the Kam school thing resolves to the benefit of Hawaiian culture and Hawaii.
As long as every Hawaiian who needs help from the School and its Trust gets it I don’t think you’d find a true Hawaiian who would not want to share the opportunity. But until that happens, I think the same group will say that the help needs to go where it was intended until it is no longer needed.
well said.history has a long or short memory depending on who is writing it.i tend to lean towards Queen Liliuokalanis writing which refers to the western religion and basically says that if your western god is all powerful then justice will be done for all the injustice you have done to my people no malice intended just clarity.
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Do they teach Hawaiian culture at this school? It doesn’t say so in their mission. But from what I’ve inferred from some of the posts, it seems that this is one of the last or few places for children to experience/learn traditional Hawaiian culture.
I think that the best way to save a dying culture is to pass it on to future generations. The more people that practice a culture, the more it’s chances of being passed down to future generations.
I empathize with those that feel that non-hawaiians trying to get into a previously “hawaiian-only” school is threatening their culture, but I would be more afraid if no one wanted to go to that school and learn about becoming Hawaiian.
wow
this thread is intense
iim surprized no one responded to Daklaws post
move forward together!
if you educate colonial kids to understand indiginous culture and language
they can feel part of it.
if they feel like there part of it
they can respect it .
they should teach hawiian culture in all schools in hawaii
and if the state doesnt want to
where are the anglo hawiians gunna learn it.?
let the preschoolers whos parents are opened minded enough ,
come and spend some time at your school.
then they can learn about hawaiian culture.
i know this isnt really relevant to the law suit.
but i dont really understand that aspect of the american culture
“im not happy who can i sue for money”
cuz it doesnt really hapen so much in the antipodes.
i personaly have had no need for a lawyer in my house
and id like to keep it that way
the guys a prick for trying to get money out of such a noble institution.
and im glad he lost
it would be a great shame if he took money for damages .
so although im against what that guy represents
i do feel that it would be in the schools interest to allow provisions or extra curricular courses
for young non hawaiians, who want to learn about your culture.
think of it as a treaty of sorts
meeting halfway
no lawyers
just sharing and cooperation
as far as the schools new successes in the community outside of the school read this: (Its a good sign)
http://starbulletin.com/2006/03/13/news/story01.html
All of that is because there’s really good people in charge of the trust and school today but if you want to read the horrors of what the school has been through because of the corruption a billion dollar trust can create read this: (It’s a same that half were of Hawaiian blood themselves, greed does not descriminate)
http://www.thehawaiichannel.com/news/7510847/detail.html
The beauty is that the students, the alumni the community and the “little folk” brought about the change happening today.
http://starbulletin.com/2006/03/05/editorial/editorial01.html
Sadly, the problem out here speaking as a hawaiian, is that you put a bunch of hawaiians in a room and they’ll kill each other over who gets to be chief. Been going on for eons.
But there’s hope…
especially when you take money (trustee compensation) out of the equation…
http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1096414877&print=yes
NEW HAVEN, Conn. - Why should Native Hawaiians who have never relinquished their inherent sovereignty settle for the lesser status of federal recognition that is being put forward in the ‘‘Akaka Bill’’?
"Princess Bernice Pauahi Bishop embraced Christian ways. She was also last in bloodline directly related to King Kamehameha I, and it is her Will that was examined. She said, “people of all races.” And that is precisely why the 9th Circuit Court ruled against Kamehameha Schools. Evidently, they did not heed the Princess’s wishes and instead, made up their own rules. The ruling will stand. "
The Kamehameha Schools were built for the children of hawaiian ancestry. The will states that there shall be a “preference” because our beloved princess Pauahi truly believed that her people would one day completely dissapear and the scholl is to remain in perpetuity.
In the first years of the school, Charles Reed Bishop approved the trustees denying a non native student from being enrolled because he knew that Pauahi intended the school to be for the Hawaiian children. I have seen the document written by Mr. Bishop explaining this. When there comes a time that there are not enough Hawaiian children to fill the schools, non-hawaiian children will be accepted.
If you want to get into the interesting truth about Hawaii, learn about the overthrow of the islands and how the President of the US had told congress that it was wrong, and act of war and that Hawaii needed to be returned to Queen Liliuokalani. Learn how the annexation of Hawaii was done illegally, and that for all these years the US has held the islands wrongfully. So many Americans don’t understand how the US became the US. They don’t like indigenous cultures, because the US had to give them special rights in liew of stealing everything else they had. Look at how many treaties and written agreements between the US and indigenous cultures have been broken.
Why is it that the US will not recognize Hawaiians as a native culture, when we were recognized as a country by all other countries including the US before we were overthrown?
NEW HAVEN, Conn. - Why should Native Hawaiians who have never relinquished their inherent sovereignty settle for the lesser status of federal recognition that is being put forward in the ‘‘Akaka Bill’’?
Sen Akaka is trying to stop the continued erosion of what Hawaiians have been entitled to as a condition of annexation and statehood. We’re constantly being sued by non Hawaiian “Americans” because we have certain entitlements.
I do not agree that the Akaka BIll is the best resolution, but I certainly doubt that the US is going to allow any form of sovereignty to the people of Hawaii. Funny thing is the US never did acquire Hawaii properly, so we are in fact still a nation being held unjustly. Seems like trying to get that acknowledged is nearly impossible. I guess the people being held at Guantanamo know our pain.
